Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #258 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Wed, 26 Nov 97 Volume 15 : Issue 258 Today's Topics: [*] Create Eudora Folder 1.0 - multiple users [*] Funnel Web 1.0.6 Banzai4800 talking newton gps maps and GTE internet phone book (A) 5200 (A) >>>'s (A) zip-drive problem (Q) Atomic Clock 5200 [*] TidBITS#406/24-Nov-97 [Q] Genealogy [Q] Problem Receiving Attached Text from PCs with Eudora Pro 3.x Configuring Mac Clock To Atomic Clock Via Modem dead motherboard in PowerBook 170 developer(s) wanted... Disk Essentials (C) Grammar Checker H. P. DeskWriter 540 printer problem..... Help for APPLE marketing Info-Mac Digest V15 #256 Info-Mac Digest V15 #256 Info-Mac Digest V15 #256 Making Startupscreens? opening a 636CD Will an AV card enable me to watch TV ? Will an AV card enable me to watch TV ? {Q}"Think Different" Commercial spoof The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. For more information, visit the Info-Mac Web site at . Email Addresses and Instructions: * To submit articles to the digest, email . * To subscribe, send email to with subscribe in the Subject line. * To unsubscribe, send email to with unsubscribe in the Subject line. * To change your address, unsubscribe from the old address, then subscribe from the new address. If that fails, try using the list maintenance form at before contacting us. * Please send administrative queries to . * To submit files for the archive, email the binhexed file with a description to . Submissions must be made by the author or with permission of the author. 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We'd also like to thank AOL for the main Info-Mac machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V15 #258" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:45:07 -0700 From: eps@ana.com Subject: [*] Create Eudora Folder 1.0 - multiple users "Create Eudora Folder" is a script to facilitate setting up Qualcomm's Eudora Light software to accommodate multiple users and/or e-mail configurations on a single Mac OS computer. When run, it prompts for a name, creates a new folder "name's Eudora Folder" on the desktop, and launches Eudora so the user can specify the desired settings. Once configured, the entire folder can be moved to a more appropriate location, or copied to a portable medium (such as a Zip cartridge) and used on multiple computers. Language: English (U.S.) Architecture: any Recommended Mac OS versions: 7.1.1-7.6.1 Requires: AppleScript 1.1, standard Scripting Additions, scriptable Finder License: freeware Source: included Eric P. Scott November 1997 [Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/mail/create-eudora.hqx; 13K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:45:05 -0700 From: d.williams@activeconcepts.com.au Subject: [*] Funnel Web 1.0.6 Hi, I have uploaded the latest release of Funnel Web, 1.06. Funnel Web is a demonstration version of a commercial web site profiling and analysis program for the Macintosh. Funnel Web, can be used as either a stand alone application or as a CGI. It provides detailed charting and statistical analysis of any Web Server log file. It provides detailed statistical analysis of server load and Web site usage and generates HTML output files. One of the significant advantages of Funnel Web is its usability. It has been carefully designed to allow ANY webmaster to generate detailed web server statistics, and does not require any detailed knowledge of log files or web servers. Unlike other programs it also supports any web server log file from the Macintosh, Win95/NT and Unix. Operates on any Macintosh running system 7 or greater. cheers, Darren Darren Williams, Active Concepts d.williams@activeconcepts.com http://www.activeconcepts.com [Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/web/funnel-web-106-demo.hqx; 793K] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:23:17 -0600 From: "Paul M. Sheldon" Subject: Banzai4800 talking newton gps maps and GTE internet phone book Banzai4800, formally mispelled Bonzai, shareware $15 gets instructions and $5 more Street Atlas automated route parsers can be used with GTE's internet phonebook maps. http://superpages.gte.net Just use simpletext to turn the gifs into picts (imported to newton by my Macpicttonewton or Apple's Newton Press) and, for coordinate system construction, have a source of latlons like Street Atlas USA or aerial charts with matching features. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 97 07:26:34 -0000 From: "Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" Subject: (A) 5200 >Hello, does anybody know if it is possible to upgrade a Performa 5200 to >a more up-to-date CPU? (I love everything of it, exept for the CPU) I don't believe that such an upgrade is supported by Apple, but if you spend much time wistfully around Macintosh showrooms you will observe that many more recent Macs share the 5200's casework. The motherboard is a sort of drawer that slides out the back of the machine. If you can get a higher-end mobo from one of the more recent machines that uses the same form factor, simply remove the two screws on the rear panel, pull down on the two retaining tabs, and the panel will come off. Then tug *hard* on the motherboard and it will come out. Transfer RAM and cache module across to the new board and put it in! -- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (Certified Apple Engineer) Home: Resume: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 08:54:40 GMT From: Ian.Goldby@powertech.co.uk Subject: (A) >>>'s Ecah time a message is forwarded, most emailers put a certain character, usually '>' in front of the forwarded text. Most mailers allow you to change this character. You omitted to mention which mailer you use, so I can't be any more specific - except to say that obviously, you can set it to no character at all. To get rid of existing '>'s in a message, use a text editor and use the replace function to change '>'s to blanks. You will then need to put in some marks of your own to make clear which is your reply and which is quoted from previous replies, and who wrote which bit. Personally, I'd leave the '>>>'s in. As a general rule, when quoting previous replies, it's best to only quote as much as you need to to put your answer in context. Try not to let the quote be longer than your answer, or you'll start to irritate people. Ian. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:15:11 -0500 From: "Norman R. Friedman" Asked this before and have not heard any answers. How to get rid of those annoying >>>'s when mail is forwarded and then would want to forward again. These >>>'precede each line. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 97 07:26:38 -0000 From: "Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" Subject: (A) zip-drive problem >Hello. I have a problem with two programs that comes with the Iomega >Zip-drive: Tools and Copy Machine. Upon startup of these programs they just >stop in some kind of waiting mode; no menu, no reaction to clicks etc. When >shut off with MacsBug everything else works fine. >Otherwise the zip-drive works fine. I have an external SCSI harddrive with >Drive 7 drive, and an internal IDE harddrive with apple's drive. I have a >Performa 5200 with MacOS 8.0 (US). The zip is first in the external SCSI >chain with termination off and the external SCSI harddisk is second and >last in the chain with termination on. I have successfully used almost the exact same combination of hardware & software, except that my 5200CD doesn't have an external hard disk. There seem to be a few weird problems with the SCSI Zip, with even weirder solutions. First, download the latest version of Zip Tools from , because any disk you received with the drive is likely to be quite old. If that doesn't solve the problem, try swapping the order of the devices (yes, I know it breaks the rule about slowest first) and turn termination off on the HDD and on on the Zip. If that still doesn't work, try disconnecting the external HDD. The third-party driver on that disk may be interfering with Iomega's utilities in some way. If that turns out to be the case, then you have a problem - contact the driver vendor to see if it's a known conflict, they may have a patch/update for it. -- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards (Certified Apple Engineer) Home: Resume: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:32:43 -0800 (PST) From: Avrum Lapin Subject: (Q) Atomic Clock I use Jim Leitch's "Set Clock" It's free and I think I found it on AOL. Set Clock instructs your modem to dial the NBS and resets your clock. Avrum Lapin Upland., CA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 21:42:44 +0100 From: Marien Subject: 5200 Hello, does anybody know if it is possible to upgrade a Performa 5200 to a more up-to-date CPU? (I love everything of it, exept for the CPU) Thanks, Marien -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:40:40 -0800 From: TidBITS Editors Subject: [*] TidBITS#406/24-Nov-97 TidBITS#406/24-Nov-97 CD-ROMs rule this issue of TidBITS, where artist Bonnie Lebesch tells the story of how she self-published her CD-ROM, Stella and the Star-Tones. We also welcome our latest sponsor, CD-ROM publisher Soft Material and its flagship product, Pickle's Book. Geoff reveals keyboard shortcut secrets that deserve to be in every Mac user's portfolio, we look at the release of a new LaserWriter driver, and Tonya calls for Mac-related computer gift suggestions. Topics: MailBITS/24-Nov-97 Peter Piper Picked a Peck of Pickle's Books Spare Keys for Your Mac How and Why I Built My CD-ROM [Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-406.etx; 30K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:32:36 -0800 (PST) From: Avrum Lapin Subject: [Q] Genealogy At 4:33 AM -0500 11/25/97, Info-Mac wrote: >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:20:47 +0100 >From: grundy@enterprise.net (Peter Grundy) >Subject: [Q] Genealogy > >I have sourced a copy of Gene 4.0. but would like to know if there is later >version, or another shareware or commercial alternative. > >Thanks. > >Lobo. Gene is now at 4.1. I am fairly sure it is available at InfoMac also at http:/www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/gene/ I think it is the best shareware out there for a Mac. It is more than adequate for my needs. Avrum Lapin Upland., CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:10:03 +0000 From: Mephistophilis Subject: [Q] Problem Receiving Attached Text from PCs with Eudora Pro 3.x >Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:47:38 +0000 >From: Mephistophilis >Subject: [Q] Problem Receiving Attached Text from PCs with Eudora Pro 3.x > >I seem to have no difficulty receiving text documents as attachments to >e-mail messages using Eudora Pro 3.0 or 3.1. However attachments sent from >PCs end up with the 'attached' text as part of the e-mail message itself - >sometimes in plain text, sometimes garbage. Can anyone help? >TIA - >Fergus Lalor Ooops! The first sentence of this message should read "I seem to have no difficulty receiving text documents as attachments to e-mail messages using Eudora Pro 3.0 or 3.1*so ling as the message originates from a Mac*" Apologies for the confusion - FL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:24:40 -0800 From: "Adam C. Engst" Subject: Configuring Mac Clock To Atomic Clock Via Modem At 12:27 PM -0500 11/21/97, Christopher Root wrote: >I am wondering what people would suggest to set my PPC 8100's internal >clock to a Master (Atomic) clock. I have been using Jean-Pierre Gachen's >AutoClock 1.4.4 for a while, but with my new Practical Peripherals 56k >(x2) modem there is some difficulty and I can't seem to find AutoClock's >author to discuss. It strikes me that for most Internet users, it's a lot easier to set your clock using the Network Time Protocol, so you're only a few hops away from an atomic clock. No need to mess with a modem or calling a number - just run Vremya or Network Time (both of which are in the HyperArchive). For more information, see this article in NetBITS (the Internet-specific sister publication of TidBITS - to subscribe, email ). http://www.netbits.net/nb-issues/NetBITS-004.html#lnk3 cheers... -Adam -- Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Publisher/Info-Mac Moderator -- ace@tidbits.com http://www.tidbits.com/ -- http://www.tidbits.com/adam/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:44:41 -0500 From: hope@bme.unc.edu (Joni Hope Julian) Subject: dead motherboard in PowerBook 170 Hi y'all, I have (had?) a PowerBook 170. While testing what I ~thought~ was an external 2.5" SCSI HD case, I burned out one of the power transistors on the motherboard, an IRFR 9020. Oddly enough, the PowerBook ran for another week before shutting itself down, never to start again. The scorch marks are convincing, so I blame the transistor and not other causes. (I didn't do anything taxing after that SCSI test failed and let the magic stink out of the power transistor.) The transistor seems to be irreplaceable, so I need a new motherboard. The daughtercard and other internals like 6 MB memory should be fine. I'm having some trouble finding a replacement 170 motherboard, but I've seen a few PowerBook 145B motherboard available. The PowerBook 145B fits in the same case, has the same ID on the ROM, and has the same 25 MHz data bus. My FPU is on the daughtercard, so can I just put in a 145B motherboard with all the rest of my 170 and have a PowerBook 170 again? Or is there some hidden gotcha waiting to bite me? TIA, Joni Julian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:25:28 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Fiske Subject: developer(s) wanted... Developers of the I-Mac Digest: I am in need of a partner (with the development-skills that I lack) to join me in the creation of GUI-enhancing extensions/control panels. Please e-mail me if interested. Mark. creator of TableCloths/Fake-8 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:45:21 -0500 (EST) From: Al Bloom Subject: Disk Essentials (C) Many of us have been looking forward to Total Recall's "Disk Essentials" as at least an alternative to Norton Utilities, maybe even a superior one. I got my copy of 1.1 this week, and I thought y'all might like to hear my rantings about it. Or I just feel like ranting, and y'all are are a handy audience. Disk Essentials has four modules: A home base (Disk Essentials), a disk fixer (DiskRX), a file recoverer (Data Recovery Toolkit), and a backup program (StopLoss). You must install them all. The installer offers an option to install only the parts you need, but if you look close, you'll see that each custom install needs zero K. Goes very quickly and does nothing. Install the whole thing. Even if, like me, you have no use for StopLoss. I use Retrospect for backup, thank you very much. I don't want or need StopLoss. I get StopLoss. Whoopie. And Disk Essentials must be run in a four-module clump. That leaves out a boot floppy. I put DiskRX on a Sys8 boot floppy. Plenty of space. It came up saying that it must run from within the Disk Essentials home base. OK, I added that. Not much space left on the boot floppy afterwards. The disk booted, I got the DE "home page" menu, I selected DiskRX, it launched and went off to search for drives, and it killed my computer. I dropped a note to Total Recall based on my best reading of "feedback" on its web page (www.recallusa.com). Got a note from support@recallusa.com that said "I can't answer your question. Write to "diskessentials@recallusa.com." OK, but why did the web site ask me to specify Disk Essentials before asking for my feedback? I forwarded the note to the right place. And got stuffed. We don't do it that way. And the license says you can only use it on one machine, so why do you need a boot floppy? To address the latter first, if the machine's hard drive goes Dixie, what do I do? Get the thing at least visible with a Norton boot floppy? Then hope that the part of the HD that went gaga didn't affect Disk Essentials so it can be invoked from a Disk Tools floppy? Gimme a break. And for the litigious among us, if I had the utility on a boot floppy, it is either on zero machines or on one. Total Recall did not ask that I specify the serial number of the Mac. So what's their problem? We don't do it that way? Why the naughtyword not? Well we wanted to put DE on a boot CD, but Apple wouldn't let us. Maybe because of Symantec? Ooooh! Could this be Satan? Oh barf. Nothing about the three useful modules seems to make them interdependent. Only Total Recall's marketing decision makes it a condition of use that all four modules be on the boot disk. Doesn't seem to be much magic. After I installed DE on my HD and personalized it, I could copy the DE folder to one of my bootable M/O disks. Yes, it worked. I expect I could copy a personalized DE folder to a CD-R disc. But how many of us have a CD burner? Or an M/O drive? Or a ZIP drive? This seems to be major ridiculous. And that's just the mechanics. How about the utility? I booted DE from an M/O drive. It found an error in my HD's catalog. It fixed it. Then, just to be a perfect snot, I booted with a Norton 351 floppy. Guess what? Now let's not always see the same hands. Yup. HD catalog error. Which Norton also fixed. Did Norton fix a fix? Did Norton fix something that wasn't broken? Did DE break something it was fixing? Enquiring minds want to know. The Total Recall folk swear I'll be much happier with DE than with Norton. Really? Why? Al Bloom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:51:11 +0000 From: Iain Bruce Subject: Grammar Checker Hi! Can you help me find a grammar checker for the Mac (which I should be able to specify as a helper for use with ClarisWorks Office in the Word Services preference option)? Iain Bruce Email: aurelius@iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:45:57 -0800 From: Vincent Cordisco (by way of Subject: H. P. DeskWriter 540 printer problem..... We have an HP DeskWriter 540 (with color kit installed) printer problem. The facts: Power Macintosh 6100/66 with DOS Compatible card installed. 16 MB RAM; System 7.5.5). HP DeskWriter 540 (with color kit installed). HP DW Series 6.0.3 driver installed in the Chooser. Serial Port used for the printer. Appletalk turned OFF. No network. The Problem: The DeskWriter 540 prints/functions great while OFFline. It crashes the Mac (often with an Error -11) trying to print while ONline. No matter what app we're using ONline (Eudora 3.0, Netscape 4.0.3, etc.) it crashes if we try to print while ONline. Data saved while online will print fine AFTER we go OFFline. Thanks in advance for any help readers may offer! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:32:40 -0800 (PST) From: Avrum Lapin Subject: Help for APPLE marketing As I sit here with my Quadra 610 and consider buying something better (faster) I am torn between still feeling that the Mac Interface is better than Windows 95 but for my useage the difference has shrunk (I use a networked Pentium where I volunteer) but on the otherhand feeling that when it comes to peripherals I would have to pay a lot more for scanners, printers, modems which say Mac compatable on the box. I am not the only one who has these feelings when it comes time to buy a new computer.. One of the things that Apple should do is provide is an online listing which would tell me how I could use things like the $99 UMAX scanner (today's CompUSA ad) or the "discontinued" on sale HP DeskJet printer. Unfortunately the guys in the store or the manufacturer's 1-800 number don't know - for that matter the same applies to the larger Mac-oriented mail order houses. Everytime I see an upgrade to Laserwriter 8.x I wonder what it means to an owner of an HP or Epson printer etc. Avrum Lapin Upland., CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:27:22 -0800 From: Roy Travis Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #256 >Hello. I have a problem with two programs that >comes with the IomegaZip-drive: Tools and Copy >Machine. Upon startup of these programs they just >stop in some kind of waiting mode; no menu, no >reaction to clicks etc. When shut off with >MacsBug everything else works fine. Try their new driver. Go to: ftp://ftp.iomega.com/pub/mac503.hqx (Iomega's own FTP site). The file mac503.hqx contains: - Tools version 5.0.1 - Iomega Driver version 5.0.3 - Iomega Guest version 5.0.3 - Iomega Drive Options version 1.1 - and documentation and an installer for everything. For more iomega related stuff try: http://205.216.138.19/~websites/kmarcus/iomega/index.html Hope this helps Roy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:30:31 -0500 (EST) From: Dan White Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #256 In article <65e61a$j1e$1@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu> you write: > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:27:01 -0500 (EST) >From: Christopher Root >Subject: Configuring Mac Clock To Atomic Clock Via Modem > >I am wondering what people would suggest to set my PPC 8100's internal >clock to a Master (Atomic) clock. I have been using Jean-Pierre Gachen's >AutoClock 1.4.4 for a while, but with my new Practical Peripherals 56k >(x2) modem there is some difficulty and I can't seem to find AutoClock's >author to discuss. > I use an old utility called "Set Clock" and it still works just fine. One suggestion: The modem connection to the US Naval Observatory that I use is at 300 bits per second. Have you checked the required protocol with the atomic clock you are using ? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:56:16 +0100 From: "Stephan (STef) Bondier" Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #256 Steve Smith wrote: >Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:05:48 -0500 (EST) >From: Zobby1234@aol.com >Subject: Power Mac 5500/225 & QuarkXPress > >We purchased a PowerMac5500/225 on the 10/10/97 and loaded an old version of >QuarkXPress (2.11). Since then we have been experiencing all sorts of wierd >and wonderful things happening to the type when the documents are printed. We >seem to get gaps in the text just like thi s . The trouble >is that the problem is not consistant, in as much that if we print the >document again it nearly always comes out perfect. As you can appriecate the >problem is both frustrating and expensive. In the early days we were getting >type 11 error message and system crashing. We hope you can shed some light on >our problem >Thanks >Steve Smith So here are a few tips: - upgrade at least to version 3.x of Quark. Version 2 is too old to have its code optimized to work on PPC machines - and it's probably too old for anything else. What do you expect to do with a so old program? - problems you are experiencing with your text is *probably* due to a corrupted font. Check out carefully each one. STef ________________________________________ STef stephan.bondier@wanadoo.fr http://perso.wanadoo.fr/stephan.bondier/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:31:49 -0500 (EST) From: Araie@aol.com Subject: Making Startupscreens? I'm an intermediate Mac user and a die-hard Star Trek fan. I just made this great picture for a startup screen but I can't make one. I have ResEdit and AdobePhotoshop 2.5.1 and tried fiddling with the resources but to no avail. Can anyone help me? My address is . Thanks, everyone! I appreciate any and all help! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:22:32 -0800 From: Chris Beck Subject: opening a 636CD You don't actually take the case off. All you do is remove the front faceplate. To do that you need to press in on the 2 tabs on the bottom of the faceplate. With those pressed in, you tilt the front panel upwards. That will give you access to all the drives the 636CD holds. The HD is behind a metal plate underneath the floppy drive. Just remove the screw, unplug the IDE ribbon cable and pull carefully. Of course once you put in the new HD, you'll want to boot the machine before you put everything back together. Simply do the reverse to put it back together. Good Luck. > >I need to replace the hard drive in a Mac 636CD. I can't for the life of >me get the top off the machine to get at it. HELP. Chris Beck, Student Network Analyst Academic Computing & Media California State University, San Bernardino e-mail : cbeck@acme.csusb.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 97 13:21:03 -0500 From: Chris Gervais Subject: Will an AV card enable me to watch TV ? >Just wondering if buying an AV card for my 6100 will enable me to >watch TV on it. > >I checked the apple TIL and it says "TV Tuner required". >What does this mean? If you get an AV card for your 6100 you'll be able to watch an suitable video input be it from a TV, VCR, etc. You will not be able to tune a TV or cable station in on your 6100 with the AV card. There's no tuner built-in, only circuitry that allows you to receive a proper video signal. So you could theoretically get a signal from your TV or cable box and send it to your Mac and watch TV. The TV Tuner card is a separate add-in card that Apple offered with some of the PCI-based Macs and the Performa/LC 5xx/6xx/5xxx/6xxx-series computers. It actually contained TV tuner circuitry and had a coaxial input on the back so you could plug in your cable and tune it in on your computer with no external help necessary. Unfortunately, I don't know of any card like that which exists for NuBus-Macs anymore. There used to be one called ComputerEyes, but I doubt it's in production any more. Hope this helps, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:26:14 -0800 From: Chris Beck Subject: Will an AV card enable me to watch TV ? Without a TV Tuner card, you can still watch TV via that card but you need a VCR or TV with composite video outs. It's kinda like a TV with PIP with only one tuner. You would need to use the VCR to do the tuning, but you would be able to watch it trough your 6100. > >Just wondering if buying an AV card for my 6100 will enable me to >watch TV on it. > >I checked the apple TIL and it says "TV Tuner required". >What does this mean? > >Please mail me at witteman@euronet.nl, >i don't visit here much... > >Thanks in advance. > >Joris Witteman Chris Beck, Student Network Analyst Academic Computing & Media California State University, San Bernardino e-mail : cbeck@acme.csusb.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:49:18 -0600 From: Hannes Hofer Subject: {Q}"Think Different" Commercial spoof I recently saw a spoof on Apple's "Think Different" commercial, with qiuite a different cast of characters than the original. I was also that it can be found in quick time format on the net. Does anyone know where to find it? Thanks! 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