Subject: Info-Mac Digest V18 #61 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Fri, 13 Apr 01 Volume 18 : Issue 61 Today's Topics: (Q) Using MacOS X and DSL [*] Abstract for "Genetic Function Finder.sit.hqx" [*] Cricket v6.0 [*] HTML-Optimizer 4.3 [*] HTML-OptimizerPlus 2.3 [*] iArchive.img.hqx [*] Jedit4.0.6 For Classic OS - Powerful Text Edito [*] Jedit4.0.6 For Mac OS X - Powerful Text Editor [*] Legendary Lair [*] Lingo Library 1.3 Demo [*] MIDI Pack'en v1.1.8 [*] NoteWorthy 1.1 [*] PcConverter 2.0 (PowerPC version) [*] Prowler 2.1 [*] TaskMenuBar 2.4.0 [*] UltraMacBookmarks 2001 Aqua Blooper Piper Correction: iMic, not iMac Does ANYONE have Aqua Blooper Piper? OS 9.1 upgrade problem OS X--What's root password OS X--What's root password OS X--What's root password Privileges under OS-9.1 ? Verizon DSL problem with Ethernet The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. Working with the Info-Mac Digest: * To submit articles to the digest, email . * To subscribe, send email to with the words subscribe info-mac in the message. * To unsubscribe, send email to with the words unsubscribe info-mac in the message. * To change your address, unsubscribe from the old address, then subscribe from the new address. * Please send administrative queries to . Downloading and Submitting Files from the Info-Mac Archive: * A full list of Info-Mac mirror sites is available at: * Search the archive via the MIT HyperArchive at: . * To submit files for the archive, email the binhexed file with a description to . Submissions must be made by the author or with permission of the author. 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(See http://support.efficient.com/KB/NTS/macintosh.html ("We plan to support OS X in a future release, but we have no firm date to expect this.")) OSX has built-in support for DSL, including PPPoE, so you probably won't need Enternet. Here are the steps to configure for SBC's DSL service: Select "System Preferences" from the dock (or OSX:Applications if you've removed it from the dock) Select "Network" In the "Configure" pop-up menu select "Built-in Ethernet" Under the "TCP/IP" tab you'll probably want "Using DHCP" (depending on your service) Under the "PPPoE" tab enter (at least) your Account Name and Password. You'll probably also want to use the "PPPoE Options" button. With it you can set automatic connections, turn off the default disconnect and warning prompts that occur after 15 minutes idle time (assuming you want a continuous connection). Overall, I miss availability of some of the information Enternet could show, but find the built-in DSL/PPPoE support more than adequate and probably a bit faster. --Wes Hubert > ---------- > From: Alan Stein > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:18 AM > To: digest@info-mac.org > Subject: (Q) Using MacOS X and DSL > > I currently connect via DSL through SNET. Under MacOS 9, the > connection requires an application called Enternet 300. My question > is whether anyone knows whether that application will continue to > work under MacOS X and, if it won't, whether it will still be > possible to use the DSL connection under MacOS X and, if so, how? > -- > Alan Stein a.stein@snet.net > > ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: "Aaron Golden" To: Subject: [*] Abstract for "Genetic Function Finder.sit.hqx" Genetic Function Finder by Aaron Golden Contents -What is GFF? (Genetic Function Finder) -How does GFF work? -How to use GFF -Limitations -Random Function Finder -FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) -Comments What is GFF? (Genetic Function Finder) Genetic Function Finder is a program that searches for a function that will produce certain points on a two dimensional coordinate plain. For example, the function 'y = x' produces the points (1, 1), (2, 2), etc. Genetic Function Finder uses a survival of the fittest environment, to evolve the correct function by random mutations. The point of GFF isn't really to find the correct function, but to demonstrate a kind of evolution. How does GFF work? Genetic Function Finder starts by taking three points (given by the user) and generating ten random arithmetic strings. Then GFF evaluates each string and finds its value for each point. For example the string 'x+1' would yield '1' if 'x = 0', '2' if 'x = 1', '3' if 'x = 2'. GFF finds the difference between the results of each string, and the 'y' values for each point the user gave it. Here's an example: 1. The user gives the points: (1, 2) (2, 3) (3, 4) 2. GFF produces a string, S: 'x + x - 2' If 'x = 1' then 'S = 1 + 1 - 2 = 0' If 'x = 2' then 'S = 2 + 2 - 2 = 2' If 'x = 3' then 'S = 3 + 3 - 2 = 4' 3. GFF finds the difference between the results of the random string, and the real results. Random string yields: 0, 2, 4. Real results are: 2, 3, 4. (2 - 0) + (3 - 2) + (4 - 4) = 3 The total error of this string was '3'. 4. GFF produces nine more strings and finds the total error of each of them. 5. GFF then erases the strings with the largest five errors. (They die) 6. The best five strings from this generation are duplicated. (They reproduce) 7. The duplicate strings are mutated randomly to stimulate evolution. 8. The process is repeated, generally getting better and better results each generation until the correct string appears. ********** ABSTRACT CROPPED ********** [Archived as /info-mac/sci/generic-function-finder.hqx; 155 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Graham Randall To: Subject: [*] Cricket v6.0 Yet more new features have been added in the latest version 6 of Cricket for the Macintosh - The graphics have been vastly improved - you can even see how well the groundsmen have maintained the grass - Returns can now come back to the bowler's end - Fielding position names (mid wicket, square leg etc) can be added to the plan view - Runs per over graph shows the progress (or the collapse) of the innings - A partnership graph has also been added to the set of statistics - All the teams data has been updated with the latest players and their averages and a new Web site has been set up at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/grandall This upgraded version of the cricket game remains exclusive to the Mac and has impressive bowling sequences (both fast and spin) derived from the real-life action of world famous test bowlers. You still need to have quick reactions to score runs against the bowling attack which ranges from fast to cunning spin but as your confidence grows, you will find that you can hit boundaries off the bad balls. The scoreboard at the ground records your progress and the scorecards can be called up at any time for a more detailed view of the innings. In the full version of Cricket, each team can be selected from a squad of 15 players and you need to assess the bowling and batting performance of the players to improve your team's performance. Batsmen with lower batting averages are more likely to give catches as they try for runs - and make sure you rest your bowlers from time to time so they can keep up a good line and length. G Randall grandall@ntlworld.com [Archived as /info-mac/game/cricket-60.hqx; 1778 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Ton Brand To: Subject: [*] HTML-Optimizer 4.3 HTML-Optimizer 4.3 What it is: Tool to check and optimize your web pages incl. images. Author: Ton Brand Company: Ton's Software License: Shareware US$10 Computer: PowerPC or iMac Mac OS: 7.5.3 or later Abstract: HTML-Optimizer is the ideal tool for managing your web site. It checks your web pages for broken links and dangling tags and optimizes both text and graphic files. The program offers 5 functions plus a number of useful options that make working with HTML-Optimizer very easy. Especially the new 'duplimize' feature comes in handy for uploading an optimized web folder. The program has a built-in Manual and Balloon Help is supported too. The five basic functions of HTML-Optimizer are: 1. Optimizing HTML code by removing unnecessary characters and tags, which results in faster loading of your pages in your client's browser. Embedded script code, e.g. JavaScript, is not ruined. Graphic file resources, which are of no use on the web, are removed, saving 10 to 80 % of space. 2. Checking the so called tagged pairs, i.e. the tags that always have to appear together with their end tags. Further, IMG tags are checked for Width, Height and Alt attributes. Missing attributes are added with values which are automatically detected. 3. Checking the validity of the internal hyperlinks, 8 levels deep. 4. Marking dangling tags and missing attributes to find and fix them quickly. 5. Converting special characters to the &....; notation. Version 4.3 adds an Open Text File menu and a zoom box for better viewing the text field. Some minor bugs have been fixed too. [Archived as /info-mac/text/html/html-optimizer-43.hqx; 1215 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Ton Brand To: Subject: [*] HTML-OptimizerPlus 2.3 HTML-OptimizerPlus 2.3 What it is: Tool to check and optimize up to 16 web sites. Author: Ton Brand Company: Ton's Software License: Shareware US$15 Computer: PowerPC or iMac Mac OS: 7.5.3 or later (for remote access Mac OS 8.6 or later is required) Abstract: HTML-OptimizerPlus is the ideal tool for managing one or more (max. 16) web sites, to make sure that all web pages and graphic files are optimized, without broken links or dangling tags. The program offers 5 functions and supports drag & drop via its Helper application HTML-Dropper. Further it offers various upload and download capabilities plus other useful options that make working with HTML-OptimizerPlus very easy. Especially the new 'duplimize' feature comes in handy for uploading an optimized web folder. The program has a built-in Manual and Balloon Help is supported too. The five basic functions of HTML-OptimizerPlus are: 1. Optimizing HTML code by removing unnecessary characters and tags, which results in faster loading of your pages in your client's browser. Embedded script code, e.g. JavaScript, is not ruined. Graphic file resources, which are of no use on the web, are removed, saving 10 to 80 % of space. 2. Checking the so called tagged pairs, i.e. the tags that always have to appear together with their end tags. Further, IMG tags are checked for Width, Height and Alt attributes. Missing attributes are added with values which are automatically detected. 3. Checking the validity of the internal hyperlinks, 8 levels deep. 4. Marking dangling tags and missing attributes to find and fix them quickly. 5. Converting special characters to the &....; notation. Version 2.3 adds an Open Text File menu and a zoom box for better viewing the text field. Some minor bugs have been fixed too. [Archived as /info-mac/text/html/html-optimizer-plus-23.hqx; 1627 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Jan Bruyndonckx To: Subject: [*] iArchive.img.hqx iArchive by Triptic Design Archive your valuable documents using affordable internet storage. Storage is provided by FilePool on a redundant array of secure servers. The iArchive application has powerful filter capabilities to archive exactly the files you want. You can restore a full hard disk, individual files or folder. You can even restore to a previous version of a file. Apple Help is incorporated in every window. Storage costs $0.25 per Megabyte. Professional Services (including higher transfer speed and encryption) cost $20 additionally. Recommended system: any Apple Macintosh with MacOS 9 Minimum system: a Power Macintosh with MacOS 8.6 [Archived as /info-mac/cmp/iarchive.hqx; 1585 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: MATSUMOTO Satoshi To: Subject: [*] Jedit4.0.6 For Classic OS - Powerful Text Edito The English version of the popular text editor in Japan. Supports AppleScript, Multi-Style, Split Editing Window, Multiple Undo, HTML Coloring, Sherlock FCB Search, Book Marking, Paragraph Formatting, Object Embedding (image, sound, Quicktime Movie and alias), Macro Menus, Read out and Recording, Summarizing, Unicode, Print preview, Sorting etc. Jedit is shareware: 2500 Japanese Yen (about $25) In Rev4.0.6, several bugs have been fixed. System Requirement: + Mac OS 8.5 or later + Power Macintosh For more, visit our Web site: http://www02.matsumoto.co.jp/product/Jedit4/index_E.html [Archived as /info-mac/text/jedit-406.hqx; 2661 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: MATSUMOTO Satoshi To: Subject: [*] Jedit4.0.6 For Mac OS X - Powerful Text Editor The English version of the popular text editor in Japan. Supports AppleScript, Multi-Style, Split Editing Window, Multiple Undo, HTML Coloring, Book Marking, Paragraph Formatting, Object Embedding (image, sound, Quicktime Movie and alias), Macro Menus, Read out and Recording, Unicode, Print Preview, Sorting etc. Jedit is shareware: 2500 Japanese Yen (about $25) Carbon application. This package supports SavePanel, 128x128dot Icon, and multi-language (English and Japanese). In Rev4.0.6,it has been adjusted for Mac OS X Product Version (Build4K78), supports the mouse wheel scroll and many other improvements have been conducted. System Requirement: + Mac OS X Product Version (Build4K78) or later + Power Macintosh For more, visit our Web site: http://www02.matsumoto.co.jp/product/Jedit4/index_E.html [Archived as /info-mac/text/jedit-406-x.hqx; 3110 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Robert Steely To: Subject: [*] Legendary Lair File Name: legendary-lair-10b3.hqx Program Name: Legendary Lair Version: 1.0.0b3 Creation Date: 3 April 2001 System Requirements: Any PowerPC Mac with Mac OS 7.6.1 or higher, 22 Mb of free RAM, and monitor with minimum resolution of 640 X 480 at 256 colors. Description: Legendary Lair is a strategic, adventure game where the player battles intelligent monsters through an infinite number of computer generated dungeons. It features built-in monster and object editors, auto-mapping, and highly randomized game play. Legendary Lair is shareware. Directory: /game/adv/ Distribution: This version of Legendary Lair is beta. Please do not distribute on CD. The final version CAN be distributed on CD when available. Author: Robert L. Steely E-mail: legendarylair@nc.rr.com Web: www.legendarylair.fanspace.com [Archived as /info-mac/game/legendary-lair-10b3.hqx; 7187 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Kris To: Subject: [*] Lingo Library 1.3 Demo Lingo Library 1.3 Lingo is the powerful object oriented scripting Macromedia Director uses. The Lingo Library adds a diversity of useful Lingo functions to the basic Lingo syntax and offers a set of behaviors to ease the development of Shockwave and Director applications. What's new in this version: - Optimized several functions - Completed the documentation - Extended the Demo For more information, visit the Whitemedia website http://www.whitemedia.com Or send us an e-mail: info@whitmedia.com [Archived as /info-mac/dev/lingo-library-13.hqx; 206 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Takashi Suzuki To: Subject: [*] MIDI Pack'en v1.1.8 MIDI Pack'en is an application for the Macintosh which allows you to keep system exclusive data in files. (Universal MIDI Librarian) When this application receives system exclusive MIDI data, new window will open and show you the data size and manufacturer. MIDI Pack'en can handle any kind of system exclusive data. What's Changed : - May crash when you close some window -> fixed. Features : - Fat Binary. - Apple Script recordable. - Macintosh Drag and Drop support. - Inline input support for Japanese text. - Navigation Services support. (PowerPC Only) This application requires : - Macintosh with 68020 or higher / PowerPC - System7 + QuickTime or System7.1 or later - Apple MIDI Manager or OMS -- T.Suzuki [Archived as /info-mac/gst/midi/midi-packen-118.hqx; 201 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Steven Horst To: Subject: [*] NoteWorthy 1.1 NoteWorthy Virtual Notecards 1.1 Update (update to commercial $89 product, 45-day trial available) This file contains version 1.1 of NoteWorthy Virtual Notecards(tm) from IntelliGents. (http://www.intelli-gents.com) It contains ONLY the update of the application, and NOT the full installer with documentation and plug-ins. (This installer is too large for the info-mac site guidelines, and can be downloaded from the developer's site, or from tucows.com or cnet.com.) NoteWorthy is a relational database for notes, quotes and bibliographic references. It is an essential tool for students, teachers, or anyone whose work requires keeping a database of research notes. contact: sales@intelli-gents.com [Archived as /info-mac/app/note-worthy-11.hqx; 4819 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Marco Bambini To: Subject: [*] PcConverter 2.0 (PowerPC version) PcConverter offers you all kinds of tools you need to convert files from or to many different formats. You can use PcConverter to convert text files (also RTF files) from Windows or Unix to MacOS, or you can use it to process your custom database files or to automate the conversion of text files to html. Different Operating Systems use different ASCII tables (a way to represent characters) so, for example, when you try to open a Windows text files with a MacOS application all the special characters are misinterpreted and the result is a series of garbage characters. To fix this drawback PcConverter comes with six different tables that enable you to convert text files (Dos, Unix and Windows) and correctly use them in your MacOS. This is only an example of what you can do with PcConverter because you have also the ability to write your own conversion tables to expand the PcConverter capabilities. [Archived as /info-mac/text/pc-converter-20-ppc.hqx; 326 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Andrew Cunningham To: Subject: [*] Prowler 2.1 Prowler is an image browsing and management tool with an intuitive and stylish interface. It's features include a full screen browser, advanced slideshow (cross fades and the unique "scribble" function) and powerful image organizational tools (image rotation, copying, renaming). Prowler's aim is to present a collection of images in an attractive way, either for personal browsing, showing off to friends, or presentations. Prowler supports all file image formats supported by the currently installed version of QuickTime. These include PICT, JPEG, GIF etc. Prowler is only US$15 shareware. --------------------------------------------------------------------- So what's so great about Prowler? There are many features that sets Prowler neck and tail ahead of the rest of the pack; - Prowler's has a unique and elegant interface; perfect for presentations. No more of those drab gray buttons, lists and popup menus. - Powerful image manipulation tools make it a perfect assistant to any aspiring digital photographer. - Prowler features a slideshow including all common features as well as several unique features such as alpha fades and scribbling. - The ability to create HTML image catalogs. - Prowler isn't expensive. [Archived as /info-mac/gst/grf/prowler-21.hqx; 1439 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: Hugh Kawahara To: Subject: [*] TaskMenuBar 2.4.0 TaskMenuBar is a control panel that uses the empty space on the menu bar for many operations such as launching and switching applications, and opening files. Because it only uses the menu bar, unlike other utilities, it will never obscure or be obscured by other windows. The version 2.4.0 supports control strip modules (requires OS 8.5 or later). Requires System 7.1 or later including OS-8 and 9 with a 68K or PPC processor. Shareware fee: $15. [Archived as /info-mac/gui/task-menu-bar-24.hqx; 193 K] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 2001 From: "Royce K. DeBow Sr." To: Subject: [*] UltraMacBookmarks 2001 Thank you for downloading the SHAREWARE list of the " UltraMacBookmarks' Now you too can be a MacHead without the mess and fuss of visiting all those sites to bookmark them. The file will work with both Int ernet Explorer and Netscape1s Communicator 4.5x up. Although not tested the bookmarks should work with all versions 4.0..x and up. Let me know when you try them. This update has several NEW folders for quick surfing without opening the larger MacHead's set. Many new listings. $12 SHAREWARE 1500+ Bookmarks Apple oriented. NEW!! NEW!!! Included with this download are some Alert Sounds for your pleasure. these can be put into your close system folder (instructions included) and then activated for use in your regular Apple Alert Sounds or better yet use in your Browser. They include such sayings as You've Got Mail, and Goodbye and other such familiar ones. There is no charge for these recordings. I know you'll enjoy them. [Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/web/ultra-mac-bookmarks-2001.hqx; 186 K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:40:44 -0700 From: Andrew Merenbach To: Subject: Aqua Blooper Piper I remember that game! I got a Performa 600 years ago, and it came with a Macintosh Demo Games CD. There's another game I can't seem to find, too: WelTris. -- Andrew Merenbach ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 10:05:52 -0700 From: Paul Brians To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Correction: iMic, not iMac Ooops. I mean "iMic," not "iMac." >------------------------------ >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:46:17 -0700 >From: Paul Brians >To: wsu-macusers-list@listproc.wsu.edu, digest@info-mac.org >Subject: iMac adapter > >I recently inquired about getting line-level audio into a G4. The >solution I found in the discussion forums on Apple's site is the >Griffin iMac Adapter, a USB interface that costs $35 plus shipping. > > > -- Paul Brians, Department of English Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-5020 brians@wsu.edu http://www.wsu.edu/~brians ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:50:50 -0700 From: Doug Hardie To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Does ANYONE have Aqua Blooper Piper? >I am after a game I once purchased around 8 years ago called: >Aqua blooper Piper. > >It was either developed by Casady & Greene or were the main >distributors. I have searched their website, all over the web, ftp, >search engines , hotline, carracho ect. > >I cannot believe it's not out there somewhere.. > >Unfortunately, I no longer have this piece of software but would like >to obtain it for my kids as I recently found an old Mac in the garage >which I would like to give to them. > >I would greatly appreciate it if you could e-mail it to me or point me >in the right direction. > >Thanks in advance > >pumpkin_king@ntlworld.com > I have a demo copy that I believe was distributed with an early Mac Addict magazine issue. I recommend checking their archives. It might still be there. The demo only has 3 levels and you exhaust it pretty quickly. -- -- Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:01:12 -0400 From: John McGibney To: , Subject: OS 9.1 upgrade problem I've tried upgrading to OS 9.1 on two machines with the same disasterous results. In both instances the drive that has been upgraded is now unbootable. If I try to boot from the drive after the upgrade the whole machine freezes, but if I boot from another drive or a CD the machine boots and the drive mounts with no problems. One drive is a SCSI the other an ATA. Both were formatted with apple's disk utility. Disk First aid shows no problems. I've tried updating the driver for the disks. using an older driver for the disks but nothing has worked. i installed the upgrade while running off the OS9 CD as the instructions dictate. Disk First Aid is version 8.6. Drive setup is version 2.0.2 (and 2.0.3). The only way to get the drive to remount is by reformatting it. But that shouldn't matter because it mounts as long as its not the startup drive. At this point I'm at a loss. Any suggestions? John McGibney _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:00:56 +1200 From: Nigel Stanger To: Bruce Johnson , Subject: OS X--What's root password On 11/4/01 6:28 AM, Bruce Johnson spake thus: > The root password is the password selected when setting up the initial user on > the Mac during the OS X install process. NO! This is _not_ correct. The initial account is an _administrator_ account. This is very definitely _not_ the same thing as root. For one thing, admin accounts do not have privileges to delete things in the Mac OS X System directory. Only root can do this, which is why it is disabled by default: > Contrary to most Unix systems you do not, in fact, _cannot_ call this account > 'root';the actual 'root' is not allowed to log in to the GUI screen. The way > you access root functions is via su, as you've found. The reason you can't call the initial account root is, well, because it _isn't_ root :) --- root has already been created (with an "invalid" password) by the time you get to the point of creating the first user. I should also point out that you _can_ login as root from the main screen, but you first have to change the password to something valid. I know this works because I've done it. > If you don't remember this password, well, I suspect highly that you are hosed > with a cap H. Forgetting or losing root password on a system generally means a > re-install. All you need to do is login with an admin account, run NetInfo Manager and choose "Change root password" from the appropriate menu (can't remember which one offhand). You will need to authenticate yourself as an administrator, then you can set the root password to whatever you like. Sorry about the shouting :) -- Nigel Stanger, mailto:nstanger@infoscience.otago.ac.nz Dept. of Information Science, http://strange.otago.ac.nz/ University of Otago, Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND. XNS: =Nigel Stanger "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." -- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 07:06:19 -0400 From: Jude Giampaolo To: Bruce Johnson , digest@info-mac.org Subject: OS X--What's root password At 11:28 AM -0700 4/10/01, Bruce Johnson wrote: >The root password is the password selected when setting up the initial >user on the Mac during the OS X install process. Not true. >Contrary to most Unix systems you do not, in fact, _cannot_ call this >account 'root';the actual 'root' is not allowed to log in to the GUI >screen. The way you access root functions is via su, as you've found. If you are an administrator you can set the root password with: sudo passwd root >If you don't remember this password, well, I suspect highly that you are >hosed with a cap H. Forgetting or losing root password on a system >generally means a re-install. ON Unix systems with user partitions on >separate disks, this is a recoverable, though time consuming error. I do >not know what re-installing OSX onto a single partition will do to user >files. If you forget the password you can boot off of the install CD to reset it. Its one of the menu options. > >There are hacker tools to gain root access once an account on the system >has been compromised, but I've no clue what rootkits are available, if >any, for OSX yet. > >> Subject: >> >> OS X--What's root password >> From: >> >> "Marc Baime" >> Date: >> >> Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:21:07 GMT >> To: >> >> comp-sys-mac-digest@moderators.isc.org >> >> >> When I bring up a terminal in OS X and try to su to root I have had no luck >> guessing the password. What is it? Please email me at mbaime@gte.net. >> Thanks! >> >> Regards...Marc Baime -- Jude Giampaolo http://prozac.eeap.cwru.edu/jude/ "Corn Nog?" jude@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu jcg8@po.cwru.edu (Please, no HTML email) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:01:57 +0000 From: Franck Horlaville To: digest@info-mac.org, mbaime@gte.net Subject: OS X--What's root password Under MacOS X you can't simply su and become root. It is deactivated by default. What you type is sudo myCommand and it will ask you for your password (which is your regular password if you're declared as admin). If you want a shell with root to type in a lot of commands for instance, then sudo tcsh >The root password is the password selected when setting up the >initial user on the Mac during the OS X install process. > >Contrary to most Unix systems you do not, in fact, _cannot_ call >this account 'root';the actual 'root' is not allowed to log in to >the GUI screen. The way you access root functions is via su, as >you've found. > >If you don't remember this password, well, I suspect highly that you >are hosed with a cap H. Forgetting or losing root password on a >system generally means a re-install. ON Unix systems with user >partitions on separate disks, this is a recoverable, though time >consuming error. I do not know what re-installing OSX onto a single >partition will do to user files. > >There are hacker tools to gain root access once an account on the >system has been compromised, but I've no clue what rootkits are >available, if any, for OSX yet. > > > Subject: > > > > OS X--What's root password > > From: > > > > "Marc Baime" > > Date: > > > > Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:21:07 GMT > > To: > > > > comp-sys-mac-digest@moderators.isc.org > > > > > > When I bring up a terminal in OS X and try to su to root I have had no luck > > guessing the password. What is it? Please email me at mbaime@gte.net. > > Thanks! > > > > Regards...Marc Baime -- Franck Horlaville Athena Online +212 (0) 37 68 28 08 http://www.athena.online.co.ma/ mailto:info@athena.online.co.ma ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:03:11 +0200 From: Jean-Paul Roy To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Privileges under OS-9.1 ? Security problem: Can a user reboot a Mac on 9.1 and then delete or access /Users files ? We have to install a Mac under OS-X and share it with a dozen of OS-X users, with private documents. Thanks, Jean-Paul Roy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:34:16 -0400 From: ngpappas To: "digest@info-mac.org" Subject: Verizon DSL problem with Ethernet Thanks to the MANY people who responded to my request for help. Some pointed out that the cable supplied was doubtless a crossover cable. And many pointed out that I should get a router. I got a Linksys Etherfast DSl/Cable Router for about $100. It solved the problem, gave me the added security of a firewall, and allowed me to avoid using the Verizon-supplied connection software completely. Avoiding the Verizon software seem to have considerably improved download speed. I am very pleased. The Linksys product is great. I did need some help configuring it, but they have 24 x 7 phone support, and if you call at 7:30 on Sunday morning, you get a person. I also called once during the week and got a promise of a call-back that never happened (but it was at my business, and maybe they did call). I am satisfied that I can use Verizon to get DSL, but I am very displeased with their unhelpful and misleading responses to my questions. They could give you basic advice about getting a router, but I suspect that they don't want to encourage multiple computers sharing a line. This is especially a risk for them since they let businesses (which usually have LANs) buy DSL at prices that are not that much higher than the residential prices. Also the software they give you seems designed to take make the average user think that you have to use them as your portal to the web. I have my own small ISP, and I am happy I can bypass the Verizon gateway completely. Thanks for your help... Nick Pappas > ---------- > From: ngpappas > Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2001 9:54 PM > To: digest@info-mac.org > Subject: Verizon DSL problem with Ethernet > > At home and at work I use appletalk ethernet networks to connect my > computers to each other and to printers using an ethernet hub. No > problems. > > I ordered DSL at home and at work from Verizon. The Mac is supposed to > connect to the DSL Modem via ethernet. It works fine if you connect the > cable directly from the Mac to the modem. Doesn't work at all if you try > to > connect through the hub - even when the Mac and the modem are the only > things connected to the hub. > > Verizon is predictably unhelpful ("we do not support ethernet network > environments"). > > Anybody got a clue how to make this work? Or should I just ship the whole > mess back to Verizon and wait for broadband? > > Nick Pappas > -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************