Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #135 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Mon, 07 Jul 97 Volume 15 : Issue 135 Today's Topics: (Q) convert .mov to System 7 snd (Q) software to kill animated gifs [?] netscape and 7.6 crashes [A] Answers: AppleTalk shutoff using AppleScript? [A] Applescript and PPP... [Q] Mounting UNIX Drive A Translator for MacWrite Files? e-mate vs. powerbook query IE and Easy Open file confusion (Q) Info-Mac Digest V15 #124 Microphones (A) Navigator crashes Problems with Value Fax speech recognition on mp2010 (my goof) The Info-Mac Network operates by the volunteer efforts of: Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan, Michael Bean, Matt Bauer, Liam Breck The Info-Mac Archive is available at 50 public and private sites around the world. For the site list, request it by mail (address below), or try: Also accessible by ftp. Help files and indexes are also in info-mac/help/. 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I've al- ready contacted the makers of Kaboom!, and they're really nice but don't seem to have an answer. I have tried numerous sound editing and con- verting programs to no avail. I need to hear from people who have al- ready done this, not who know of software that is *suppose* to do this. All I want to do is have the Baby Toaster Music played periodically in the background while I work. If I can't do it via a software-only so- lution soon, I'll have to resort to using a friend's Mac to play the .mov file through an audio cable to *my* Mac running Kaboom! Factory to record it, but that seems so pedestrian... Please, help...! Thanks! ds. =) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 01:53:16 -0800 From: Doan Thiel Stafford Subject: (Q) software to kill animated gifs is there software compatible w/ Netscape Navigator 2 and higher that will effectively kill those irritating animated gifs...? something that will stop all those spinning, flashing, NOTICEME! gifs...? not from loading, just from moving (reading their files from my hard drive or cache)...? thanks! ds. =) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 04:10:49 -0400 (EDT) From: NCICCHECK@aol.com Subject: [?] netscape and 7.6 crashes I have just installed System 7.6.1 on my Power Mac 6100 and I can no longer use Netscape 3.0. I can't log on to my ISP. I keep getting the error message that Netscape was unable to connect immediately upon trying to access my mail. It dosen't even try dialing out through Free PPP 2.5.2 first. I've tried it with virtual memory on and off no good either way. If I try launching Free PPP first it may connect (50% chance) but FreePPP will not open netscape as it is told to in its preferences file. I've tried replacing both Netscape's and PPP's preference files, no good. It seems to be a direct conflict between the system software and Netscape. If I start off another drive that still has System 7.5.5 installed everything works fine!! I have System 7.6.1 Open transport 1.1.2 Netscape 3.0 claris emailer lite 1.1v4 (also won't work). Anybody have any solutions?? I read before in the digest that others have had this problem but i don't rember finding a solution. How about Netscape 4.0, has anybody tried it? TIA John McGibney NCICCHECK@aol.com NCICCHECK@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 06:39:08 -0500 From: Frank Christel Subject: [A] Answers: AppleTalk shutoff using AppleScript? For the benefit of other AppleScript novices, here's a summary of the answers to my question about how to turn off AppleTalk via AppleScript: (AppleTalk interferes with audio editing applications when recording and I always forget to turn it off between sessions after using Netscape. I discovered that AppleScript cannot by itself control AppleTalk.) [Solution #1] AppleTalk may not have to be turned on at all to use Internet-aware applications under System 7.6.1 open transport! Absolute heresy for those familiar with pre-open transport days, but true. Unless one is using an AppleTalk-dependent application such as ARA 2.0 to connect to the 'net, AppleTalk can remain off and Netscape, Fetch, etc. seem to work just fine. [Solution #2] Extend AppleScript's vocabulary with an extension found on info-mac. * Download /info-mac/dev/osa/appletalk-access-osax-101.hqx * Unstuff and drag "AppleTalk OSAX" to the "Scripting Additions" folder located in the Extensions folder within the System Folder * Restart * Open the AppleScript "Script Editor" * Enter this one-line script (without quotes): "AppleTalk off" * Run script to test - yup, AppleTalk turns off * Select menu "File:Save As Run-Only" to save as self-running application * Choose "Kind:Application" from the pop-up menu * Drag newly-created application to "Startup Items" folder in System Folder * Restart - AppleTalk will turn off at every bootup Many thanks to all who responded with suggestions. This community of sharing is what makes info-mac so useful and one more reason why the Mac is the one true computer for the rest of us. Frank Christel General Manager / NPR@89.5 KWGS, Tulsa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 97 23:17 MET DST From: "John.Park" Subject: [A] Applescript and PPP... I don't know what the OT errors mean but if you just want a script to check to see if a particular app is running, the following should work. You need Mark Alldritt's freeware Script Tools "Processes" osax (I don't remember if I got it at Info-Mac). Just change "Finder" to the desired app (Eudora Internet Mail Server, in your case - check this!) and the beep commands to the desired commands. Have fun! jp --begin script set TestingProc to list processes set NumberTimesToRun to number of items in TestingProc --tests each process that's running to see if it's named Finder repeat with i from 1 to NumberTimesToRun set TheProc to item i of TestingProc set ProcInfo to get process TheProc set ProcName to process name of ProcInfo if ProcName is equal to "Finder" then beep 2 else beep 7 end if end repeat --end script ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 97 17:41:57 -0500 From: "Jason P. Torrey" Subject: [Q] Mounting UNIX Drive Does any one know if there is an ARA-like program out there that allows one to mount a UNIX drive on your desktop? I commonly have telnet and ftp applications open to the same directory to handle file transfers and maintenance, and believe that these functions can be handled better through integration with the Finder. If this type of product does not exist already, development of this would certainly interest me. Does anyone have any pointers on this? Jason jtorrey@qni.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:14:42 -0500 From: Miles Abernathy Subject: A Translator for MacWrite Files? I have many 1985 original MacWrite files, and no way to read them. Word 6 can handle MacWrite II files, but not the "classic" variety. I understand that MacWrite will not run on present-day Macs. Has anyone seen a translator? Miles Abernathy, miles@mail.utexas.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 10:36:52 -0400 From: "W. R. Wing" Subject: e-mate vs. powerbook query I have an e-mate vs. powerbook query. My wife's Franklin Planner has expanded past the point of reasonable portability. She would love to replace it with an e-mate (she has played with my Messagepad 2000 + keyboard) but hesitates for one simple reason. The keyboard Apple ships with the MP2K has an audible key click feedback mechanism which would make the keyboard too noisy for note taking in small 5-6 person meetings. The keyboards on the powerbooks I have had experience with (540, 5300, and 3400) can all be used silently if one types gently. So, the question becomes; does the keyboard in the e-mate use the same mechanism as the one that comes with the MP2k or is it one that can be used silently? An obvious alternative to the e-mate would be the 2400 (when it starts shipping). This has real pros and cons. She loves the idea of being able to take notes that include free-form sketches, easy with the e-mate but awkward at best with the 2400. Can anyone with experience with an e-mate offer thoughts or advice? Thanks, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 23:49:12 -0500 From: Paul Koch Subject: IE and Easy Open file confusion (Q) There's weirdness on my desktop: Via Internet Explorer, I began downloading a file called Filename.sit (the name has been changed to protect the innocent), then I cancelled the download. Subsequently other files downloaded by IE are identified with KIND Filename.sit, which is not an application. The problem does not go away until I deactiviate the Easy Open control panel (using Extensions Manager). This is not a good thing. Can someone help with a solution? Thanks. Paul Koch ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 02:38:53 -0400 From: entropy@io.com (Kiran Wagle) Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #124 > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:59:18 -0500 > From: "Bruce A. Bromberek" > Subject: Eudora Actions > Is it possible to get Eudora to run an applescript in response to recieving > email with a specific subject line. I know I can filter based on subject, > but I'm stumped on how to start a script. Eudora cannot run a script as a filter action. This would be a useful feature, so you might want to write to their suggestion address and suggest it. (It's been discussed before. :-)) Another way to do this would be for Eudora to tell a script application that mail has arrived. Unfortuantely, *this* couldn't be done because of a strange bug in AppleScript that wouldn't let the script application get the contents of the Apple Event in question, although it apparently worked fine with Frontier. If the script couldn't actually get the list of new messages, it couldn't DO anything with the list. So the short answer is no. :-( ~ Kiran ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:17:54 -0500 From: Bryan Walls Subject: Microphones (A) >>I have a small round microphone that worked with my LCIII. >>I recently bought a PowerCenter 166, which requires a "Plaintalk" >>microphone. >> >>Can I use my old microphone with the PowerCenter? (I'd rather find out >>BEFORE I plug it in and possibly fry something...) >> >>If this doesn't work, does anyone out there know of a cheap source for a >>Plaintalk microphone? >> >>Thanks, Frank >> >>frankr@mdli.com >> > > You will not fry anything by plugging in the old microphone - it >just won't work. There is an extension however called the Sound >Amplification Extension that is suppose to allow you to use regular (no >pre-amp) microphones with the Plaintalk based Mic Input. Once installed >and loaded, you access the Amplification option through the Sound control >Panel. > > I believe the extension can be found at the Apple Archives (I think >that's where I saw it). I haven't tried it myself but would assume Apple >did. > > Pat Ellis Unfortunately, the Amplification Extension doesn't work. It's a great idea, though... Best price I found was at AllTech Electronics who list the Plaintalk Mic for $9, plus about $8 for shipping and handling. I also picked up a cable and some Phonenet adapters (the adapters were $3/each). I ordered last week and haven't gotten it yet. I'll let you know if they don't come... If you have a preamp on an old stereo component, that may work with the mic you have. You need line-level rather than mic-level input. Bryan Walls My words are not NASA policy. Bryan.Walls@msfc.nasa.gov (205)544-3311voice,544-5841fax ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 97 04:01:16 +0100 From: Rodney Schmidt Subject: Navigator crashes Our school is experimenting using the new PowerPC RealAudio 3.0, 4.0, and 4.0 plus (Gold) plugins for Netscape Navigator. Once the plugin loads in Navigator, either version 3.01 OR the newer 4.0, upon quitting Navigator (File/Quit or Command-Q) an *immediate* system crash occurs. We would appreciate any advice or assistance possible with this problem. Our system definitions include 7.3.5.2.2 AND 7.6.1, Open Transport 1.1, 1.1.1, and 1.1.2, on Mac 7100/66 AV, 7200/75, 7500/100, and 8500/120 systems. We have been in touch with the Progressive Networks people but they do not use Macs. Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 18:29:43 +1000 From: Bob Lyon Subject: Problems with Value Fax It looks as if my earlier message didn't get through ,, here goes : I recently downloaded a copy of Valuefax. My modem type is a Banksia MyFastModem 28.8 V34. I've installed the Class 2 version of the software as recommended. The instructions then say I need a command string to put the modem in XON/XOFF flow control mode. The XON/XOFF string I'm using is the default one: AT&F&K4 While I have been able to send faxes, I can't receive any - I've enabled the background program that sets the modem on line, but it looks as if the modem resets itself after connection but before any data can get through to my modem. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:04:24 -0500 From: "Paul M. Sheldon" Subject: speech recognition on mp2010 (my goof) I had told this list awhile back of a technique of getting sound in and out of a newton cheap so they could hold out and not buy a mp2000 to await rumored speech recognition on mp2010. I was, in particular, interested in the fact that speech recognition could fascilitate controlling my ever developing newton navigator with my hands off it driving in my car and know that recognition involves definition of a language by grammers and I was interested in the definition of a music language through the Bol processor on this bbs. So, I thought I, of all people, should wait or perhaps hurry apple to have it in mp2000 plugin by my post. Since then, I have made some inquiries. On a mac speech recognition, dragon powersecretary requires 24 mb of system ram, 13 mb of application ram, 32 mb of ram installed for multiple applications using it. Hard disk storage requires at least 25 mb of disk for the first user's speech and 5 megs for each additional user. Don't wait for the mp2010! It might not even get to exist if you don't show your support now. The mp2000's may all be bought up. Recognize newton, don't wait for it to recognize you. At any rate, that is my opinion now. 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