Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #138 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Thu, 10 Jul 97 Volume 15 : Issue 138 Today's Topics: [*] "Styles" Bunnies for Kaleidoscope 1.7 [*] AhiTek IconInterface Upgrade SVR [*] BBEdit extensions for MacPerl Rel. 5.2 [*] Clue-J [*] commentexcerpter-110 [*] data-transformer-pm-09a9 [*] Disinfectant 3.7, an essential anti-virus utility [*] FractalDesk.sit - fractalish desktop patterns [*] GraceMaze1.5.2 - Kaleidoscope Scheme [*] GucciKoo1.5.2 - Kaleidoscope Scheme [*] HotSpurs1.5.2 - Kaleidoscope Scheme [*] LuigiXIV1.5.2 - Kaleidoscope Scheme [*] Mac-IBM-compare, Html Version 2.1.5 [*] PageADayDemo.FM [*] Spiderman Icon [*] System's Twilight 1.0.5: An Abstract Fairy Tale [*] tidbits2html-120 [*] Virtual Wings Demo (?) teleconferencing for free long distance [a] AIMS with Open Transport [Q] Localtalk / ethernet problem Mac Microphones.... Mounting UNIX Drive (A) Netscape 4 (C) Netscape 4 (C) Netscape 4 (C) powerwave problems System Software for Mac 128k? The Info-Mac Network operates by the volunteer efforts of: Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan, Michael Bean, Matt Bauer, Liam Breck The Info-Mac Archive is available at 50 public and private sites around the world. For the site list, request it by mail (address below), or try: Also accessible by ftp. Help files and indexes are also in info-mac/help/. Administrative queries & info: Articles for digest publication: Files for inclusion: To submit a file greater than 800K, or to avoid submitting by (and segmenting for) email, send email describing the file to and upload it to: -- username/password macgifts/macgifts at info-mac.org As with emailed submissions, non-text files must be binhexed. See our new WWW site: , where you can find all of this info and more! 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BinHexed. Regards, Janet Parris jparris6@netpath.net http://www.geocities.com/Area51/2460 http://members.tripod.com/~SlvrDragon/kaleidoscope.html [Archived as /info-mac/gui/ks/bunnies.hqx; 175K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:35 -0700 From: athomas@ousd.k12.ca.us Subject: [*] AhiTek IconInterface Upgrade SVR Welcome to the AhiTek SVR AhiTek SVR is the AhiTek package that allows you to use AhiTek IIU without the assistance of Aaron or Kaliedoscope. It also includes all major versions of AhiTek icon design of AhiTek starting from version 1.0 all the way up to the Gold Edition. Download AhiTek SVR and see for yourself. Thanks Visit the AhiTek website at Softmedia for the latest versions. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/3196 [Archived as /info-mac/gui/ahitek-svr.hqx; 1806K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:32 -0700 From: bradh@pobox.com Subject: [*] BBEdit extensions for MacPerl Rel. 5.2 I have written several BBEdit extensions that facilitate the use of BBEdit and BBEdit Lite with MacPerl (a Macintosh port of the Perl programming language). This is release 5.2 of the extensions. The extensions included are: 1. Run MacPerl (version 1.1.4) Runs a script in active BBEdit window. STDOUT and STDERR are displayed in a BBEdit window. 2. Check Perl Syntax (version 1.1.4) Checks the syntax of a script in the active BBEdit window. 3. Run MacPerl Front (version 1.0.4) Switches to MacPerl and runs the script in the active BBEdit window. 4. Run File with MacPerl (version 1.1.4) Runs a script selected from a standard file dialog. STDOUT and STDERR are displayed in a BBEdit window. 5. Edit MacPerl Script (version 1.0.2) Allows runtimes, droplets, cgis, etc., that are created with MacPerl to be edited in BBEdit. 6. Shuck (version 1.0) Looks up the text selected in the active BBEdit window using the Shuck POD reader that comes with MacPerl. 7. Perl Filters (version 1.1.2) Allows Perl scripts to act as text filters on text selected in the active BBEdit window (this is a BBEdit tool extension and only works with BBEdit, not BBEdit Lite). The extensions are freeware. More information is available on my BBEdit extensions web page: http://members.aol.com/bradh5/bbedit Brad Hanson bradh@pobox.com [Archived as /info-mac/text/bbe/macperl-bbedit-extensions.hqx; 98K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:53 -0700 From: ftakeda@ike.tottori-u.ac.jp Subject: [*] Clue-J This is Japanese version of Clue. If you like the detective stories then this is for you. Professor Plum, Miss Scarlett, Mr Green ... they're all here. Who is the murderer? You figure out who, with what and where. Will you accept challenges? New features since the earlier uploaded version: *Current version adds more original scenarios. *You get a magnifying glass cursor that reduces your burden of clicking to find the clues. *Bugs are fixed. Requirements: *HyperCard or HyperCard Player. It's freeware. Thanks, Fuminori Takeda (ftakeda@ike.tottori-u.ac.jp) [Archived as /info-mac/game/brd/clue-jp.hqx; 791K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:56 -0700 From: malmgren@euronet.nl Subject: [*] commentexcerpter-110 CommentExcerpter 1.1 is a project produced with Data Transformer Project Manager 0.9a9 available on Info-Mac. This project extracts comments from C or C++ source code. More information about this project is available on the net. The minimum system required for CommentExcerpter is a Macintosh LC (Motorola 68020), running MacOS 7.0 or later and Data Transformer Project Manager 0.9a9 or later. To compile the project you will also need a C/C++ compiler from a third party vendor, such as Metrowerks or Symantec. In order to run the final application, systems before version 7.5 also require the Thread Manager extension, available for free from Apple. /Jens
malmgren@kagi.com --- malmgren@kagi.com, malmgren@euronet.nl, http://www.euronet.nl/users/malmgren [Archived as /info-mac/cmp/comment-excerpter-11.hqx; 16K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:35:00 -0700 From: malmgren@euronet.nl Subject: [*] data-transformer-pm-09a9 This is a unique visual development environment with wich you easily create C++ source code for a Mac OS application that transforms and/or translates data. Work is done in a drawing environment and when the graphs are finished the project can be compiled to C++ source. The C++ source uses the thread manager and the source can be added to existing applications as well as form stand alone transformation applications. Advantages of the Data Transformer technology:
  • The whole concept is learned fast and easy.
  • Unexperienced C/C++ programmers get a safe entry to advanced Macintosh programming.
  • Experienced programmers are freed from burdens of coding and maintaining state machines.
  • Work done with this technology are prepared for the future and need not to be redone all over again and again. A project need only to be recompiled with a new version of Data Transformer Project Manager to take full benefit of future enhancements.
The minimum system required for the Data Transformer Project Manager is a Macintosh LC (Motorola 68020), running MacOS 7.0, or later. Currently, the Project Manager is not PowerPC native. To compile sample applications you will also need a C/C++ compiler from a third party vendor, such as Metrowerks or Symantec. In order to run the final application, systems before version 7.5 also require the Thread Manager extension, available for free from Apple. This archive contain the Data Transformer Project Manager, a Sample project, a sample shell for both MetroWerks and Symantec compilers, a read-me file in HTML format. The documentation of Data Transformer Project Manager is available on the net. /Jens
malmgren@kagi.com [Archived as /info-mac/app/data-transformer-pm-09a9.hqx; 594K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:30 -0700 From: ace@tidbits.com Subject: [*] Disinfectant 3.7, an essential anti-virus utility This is version 3.7 of Disinfectant, John Norstad's venerable freeware anti-virus utility. It has been updated to detect a variant on the MBDF B virus that the Disinfectant INIT in version 3.6 caught, but which the 3.6 application missed. This file has been scanned and is free of all known viruses. All Disinfectant users should udpate to this version, and anyone currently not using anti-virus software should seriously consider using Disinfectant to protect against potentially dangerous code viruses. Note that Disinfectant does NOT attempt to detect or remove macro viruses such as those that infect Microsoft Word documents. [Archived as /info-mac/vir/disinfectant-37.hqx; 209K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:37 -0700 From: twrigley@sfsu.edu Subject: [*] FractalDesk.sit - fractalish desktop patterns Fifty one desktop patterns (as if anyone would need that many) derived from fractal images I picked up at alt.binaries.pictures.fractals, all nicely stuffed and binhexed. They're cool, they're free, they're here; try them. Don't include in any CD-rom or other packages without express permission (not that I'm likely to object, mind you, I'd just like to know). [Archived as /info-mac/gui/txtr/fractal-desk.hqx; 671K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:41 -0700 From: awong@iper.net Subject: [*] GraceMaze1.5.2 - Kaleidoscope Scheme GraceMaze 1.5.2 - For Kaleidoscope 1.5.x and above [Archived as /info-mac/gui/ks/grace-maze.hqx; 22K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:43 -0700 From: awong@iper.net Subject: [*] GucciKoo1.5.2 - Kaleidoscope Scheme GucciKoo 1.5.2 - For Kaleidoscope 1.5.x and above [Archived as /info-mac/gui/ks/gucci-koo.hqx; 23K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:45 -0700 From: awong@iper.net Subject: [*] HotSpurs1.5.2 - Kaleidoscope Scheme HotSpurs 1.5.2 - For Kaleidoscope 1.5.x and above [Archived as /info-mac/gui/ks/hot-spurs.hqx; 31K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:47 -0700 From: awong@iper.net Subject: [*] LuigiXIV1.5.2 - Kaleidoscope Scheme LuigiXIV 1.5.2 - For Kaleidoscope 1.5.x and above [Archived as /info-mac/gui/ks/luigixiv.hqx; 25K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:34 -0700 From: bgrubb@acca.nmsu.edu Subject: [*] Mac-IBM-compare, Html Version 2.1.5 The Mac-IBM-compare html document compares the Mac and IBM machines CPUs, hardware {monitor support and expansion}, operating systems, networking & printing; it covers not only present hardware/software statistics and features but also future possibilities. Despite its condensed and generalized format it still provides some thought-provoking reading on the relative merits, problems, and deficiencies of Macs and IBM PCs. It also contains some FAQ answers about both machines and the PowerPC line. [Archived as /info-mac/info/hdwr/mac-ibm-compare-215.hqx; 32K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:54 -0700 From: rgray@together.net Subject: [*] PageADayDemo.FM PageADay is an FMP3 template that functions much as a paper page-a-day calendar. Small but powerful, PAD lets you store information and search for it by keyword or date. A no-nonsense PIM capable of keeping your life always at your fingertips. The 3-month demo is fully functional, and the full 1 1/2 year version (through 12/31/98) is only $3 shareware. Thanks! Rich Gray rgray@together.net [Archived as /info-mac/data/page-a-day-demo-fm.hqx; 50K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:49 -0700 From: stingray@webzone.net Subject: [*] Spiderman Icon This file contains several icons from the Spiderman comic book series. You may use or distribute as you see fit, including use on CD ROMs. Abstract: Spiderman icons for use on system 7 macs. Thank You, Steve Jones stingray@webzone.net [Archived as /info-mac/gui/icon/spidey-icons.hqx; 49K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:35:04 -0700 From: erkyrath@netcom.com Subject: [*] System's Twilight 1.0.5: An Abstract Fairy Tale This game is a story and a puzzle. The story is made up of several parts, not all of which may be obvious. The puzzle is made up of many puzzles, some of which aren't obvious at all. That's all I'll tell you. The rest you get to figure out yourself. Have fun. Puzzle-game enthusiasts will notice that this game is in the style of Cliff Johnson's classic puzzle games, "3 in Three" and "The Fool's Errand". However, be assured that the story and all the puzzles are original. In fact, as far as I know, all twelve *kinds* of puzzles are original. The interface is a step forward as well, allowing full control over your character's movement and the ability to pick up and carry objects. It is compatible with System 6.0.7 or System 7, any Macintosh or PowerMac, and can be played on monochrome, 16-color, or 256-color displays. It requires only 1 meg of free memory. Complete help about the interface is available under the Help/Balloon menu (or, under System 6, the Apple menu.) I do not give out hints on the puzzles, because I hate to spoil other people's fun. If you want help, you may have some luck asking on the Usenet group comp.sys.mac.games.adventure, or on other on-line games forums. System's Twilight is shareware. You can play the first 25% of the game for free; to progress beyond that, you must register. Registering costs $15 (US dollars). System's Twilight is now distributed by PlayMaker, Inc. Yay! You can now register by phone; they take credit card orders. Nothing else has changed; the game is still shareware, and it still costs $15. [July 2, 1997: This is still version 1.0.5, but the ordering address has been modernized, so it should replace earlier copies of 1.0.5.] This program is copyright 1993-1997 by Andrew Plotkin. Anyone may copy or distribute it freely, as long as no money is charged for it. This program may not be sold or included in a for-profit collection without written permission from the author. "And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..." [Archived as /info-mac/game/systems-twilight-105.hqx; 823K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:58 -0700 From: malmgren@euronet.nl Subject: [*] tidbits2html-120 TidBITS2html 1.2 is a project produced with Data Transformer Project Manager 0.9a9 available on Info-Mac. This project transform an emailed TidBITS type of document into HTML. More information about this project is available on the net. The minimum system required for TidBITS2html is a Macintosh LC (Motorola 68020), running MacOS 7.0 or later and Data Transformer Project Manager 0.9a9 or later. To compile the project you will also need a C/C++ compiler from a third party vendor, such as Metrowerks or Symantec. In order to run the final application. Systems before version 7.5 also require the Thread Manager extension, available for free from Apple. /Jens
malmgren@kagi.com --- malmgren@kagi.com, malmgren@euronet.nl, http://www.euronet.nl/users/malmgren [Archived as /info-mac/cmp/tidbits-2-html-12.hqx; 44K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:34:51 -0700 From: gumpel@cat3.com Subject: [*] Virtual Wings Demo Virtual Wings 1.0 Demo - is a professional simulator for exhilarating instru= ment flying using precise Jeppesen=AE nav-aid and airport facilites data. Virtual= Wings models actual general aviation enroute and terminal procedures in a realisti= c aircraft cockpit with a fully loaded interactive panel. From runway to runwa= y, the exceptionally detailed terrain scenery is based on true relief data and makes it ideal for navigating a cross country under visual flight rules as well. Dead reckon, fly the nav-aids or just follow a river or road. Command your world: day or night with city lights & highway traffic; clear, scattered, broken or overcast skys; calm, breezy or shearing wind; full panel or random anomalies. [Archived as /info-mac/game/virtual-wings-demo.hqx; 6641K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:52:05 +0000 From: ktaylor Subject: (?) teleconferencing for free long distance What's available for teleconferencing that lets a person talk to another person via Internet, thereby avoiding long distance charges? My nephew, with whom I'd like to talk with via Internet, is using Microsoft NetMeeting on his pc, but it appears that NewMeeting is for the pc platform only. I've read a few blurbs about CU See Me, but the emphasis is on video conferencing. Would it work effectively using audio only, or is there a better application for audio-only? -Ken Taylor ktaylor@premier1.net >From the Pacific Northwest, where the weather is a lot more like November's weather. :-( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:30:19 -0800 From: kee nethery Subject: [a] AIMS with Open Transport >Hallo, > >How can I get Apple InterNet Mail Server (AIMS) get to >work properly ? try something like MacTCP Watcher to do a DNS lookup from that machine. If that doesn't work, you need to go to OT and properly configure your DNS pointer. if that works OK and if this is your first setup of AIMS, go to the eudora web pages, from there go to the tutorials provided by various folks and follow the instructions exactly. chances are you have something misconfigured in EIMS. if it worked before you installed OT and now it doesn't work, and MacTCP Watcher can do a DNS lookup, I'm stumpped. >I use version 1.1.1 with Open Transport (1.1.2), and >it does not work well. It has problems with finding >domainnames. >The error I get is: >domain lookup failed, error type -23044 for some reason this reminds me of a MacTCP error message, not an OT error message but perhaps I am incorrect. Kee Nethery "The person who named it AIMS" > >TIA, > >Nico Rozendaal, >University of Maastricht, >nico.rozendaal@np.unimaas.nl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 17:46:16 -0700 From: Mark Hurty Subject: [Q] Localtalk / ethernet problem I've set up an ethernet network and all is working splendidly, except... My wife has an HP deskwriter 660 connected to her 8100 via phonenet connectors and the printer port. Obviously when the appletalk connection is set to "ethernet", she can't see the deskwriter, and she has to: go to the apple menu select the appletalk control panel switch from ethernet to printer port close the control panel go to the chooser select the deskwriter close the chooser print. Then when I need the ethernet connection reestablished, I have to go through simlar list of steps. No one is happy. I figured that I should be able to use AppleScript to automate this task, but I'm unable to get the script editor to record my steps to create a script. I know very little about appleScript syntax, and have no clue as to how to write this script manually. Any suggestions? I know I can buy "LocalTalk Bridge" from Apple for about a 100 bucks, but that seems a little steep for what we need. Thanks for the help Mark hurty@idiom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 21:14:28 -0400 From: Holleran Greenburger Subject: Mac Microphones.... Sorry, the old microphone will not reach the contacts, and therefore will not work. (A plaintalk has a longer plug) You'll need the plaintalk, expect it to be at least $35 at any supplier. Holleran Greenburger holleran@penguin-works.com >I have a small round microphone that worked with my LCIII. >I recently bought a PowerCenter 166, which requires a "Plaintalk" >microphone. > >Can I use my old microphone with the PowerCenter? (I'd rather find out >BEFORE I plug it in and possibly fry something...) > >If this doesn't work, does anyone out there know of a cheap source for a >Plaintalk microphone? > >Thanks, Frank > >frankr@mdli.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 11:19:30 -0400 From: davidson@ll.mit.edu (Steve Davidson) Subject: Mounting UNIX Drive (A) > Does any one know if there is an ARA-like program out there that allows > one to mount a UNIX drive on your desktop? I suggest you look into netatalk, available (at no charge) from the U. of Mich. It's not "ARA-like," but it does provides Apple Filesharing Protocol (AFP), and Printer Access Protocol (PAP) services over EtherTalk and therefore appears as a Mac file server over a network. In addition, UNIX printers can be "advertised" as AppleTalk PostScript printers (i.e., LaserWriters). More information can be found on the netatalk Web page: http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk The URL for obtaining netatalk is: ftp://terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu/unix/netatalk/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:29:45 -0800 From: Wagner Truppel Subject: Netscape 4 (C) Howdy everyone, with regards to Al Bloom's comment about Netscape 4, my experience has been that 4 is considerably more stable than 3. However, it *is* BIG. I use Eudora for email and NewsWatcher to read the news, so I'd prefer to be able to install only the browser and editor parts of Netscape. Another thing that bothers me is related to sorting bookmarks. In 3, it was possible to select a certain group of bookmarks and sort only those. In 4, when I try that, *all* bookmarks get sorted; that defeats the purpose of being able to rearrange their orders manually by dragging. Is this a bug or a (non-) feature? Finally, I agree with Al that the palette is a step back. Wagner Truppel Dept of Physics and Astronomy Univ. California, Irvine wtruppel@uci.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 11:09:49 -0500 From: Lanny Chambers Subject: Netscape 4 (C) >Uncle Al, the kiddies' pal, is being resident curmudgeon again. I'm >starting to feel like Andy Rooney. Apologies to non-US types who don't >get the reference. For US types who don't get the reference, try CBS >at 7:00 Sunday evenings. It is often worth the bother. > >Is anyone else as annoyed with Netscape 4 as I am? > >First off, it is huge. Second, it seems to provide *less* than 3. Al, you ain't wrong. Here are my favorite (?) 4.01 gripes: 1) Menu drop-down is slow. If you have more than a couple of sites bookmarked, it's glacial. b) The Command-R shortcut (to reload a page) has been reassigned to some other function in one of the useless-but-not-optional non-browser components. iii) Here's the killer: "safe palette"-compliant GIFs are no longer safe. 4.01 randomly shifts pixels from the 6x6x6 palette to rogue color values, usually dithering the image in the process. Mind you, this is not done in a consistent manner. Thus, from my perspective as a professional site developer, 4.01 is worthless as a means of previewing pages. BTW, you can dock that idiotic floating palette, by simply clicking on its close-window button. Lanny Chambers (lanny@derived.com) St. Louis, USA Visit the Hummingbird Page: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:41:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hart Subject: Netscape 4 (C) In response to Al Bloom's last post about Netscape 4: I don't think I have quite the same problems as you, but the annoyances are there none the less. Any program which is really slow to use on my 9500/132, (which Netscape 4.0 is) I don't really want to be using. 3.0 Zips on a long, but 4.0 seems to load graphics slower, and respond slower to the click of a mouse. It'll be 3.0 for me and my organization for a while to come, unless something gets fixed, or someone can give me a hint at how to speed NS 4.0 up a whole lot.. I can just imagine trying to run it on my in the office 8100/80! Joshua http://yomomma.med.nyu.edu/~hart/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 21:39:17 -0600 From: Chaz Larson Subject: powerwave problems >powercomputing powerwave 120... > ... i'd like to reinitialize the disk and reinstall 7.53 or 7.55. Do i >need any special drivers from powercomputing? or is it really a mac? No special drivers needed. Just install System software like you would anything else. I believe Apple System Profiler will identify the machine as a 7200. My PowerCenter 120 came with System 7.5.3L [for "L"icensee, I assume] installed on it, but it is now running plain vanilla 7.6.1 chazl July 8, 1997 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 08:36:51 -0400 From: Jeff Macalintal Subject: System Software for Mac 128k? Greetings all, I'm looking for system software that will boot what I'm assuming to be a Mac 128k. I came across this little gem via a co-worker, and I couldn't resist the idea of having Apple's oldest Mac sitting on my desk next to Apple's newest Mac (a 9600/233). Again, I'm guessing this is a 128k, primarily because the serial number on it is "M0001". It's in a compact case, has keyboard input ports that look like RJ-11 (telephone) jacks, and simply the word "Macintosh" on the front (no bloody A, B, C, or D ). The folks at SOS-APPL were really friendly (and just as interested in it as I was), but none of them had experience with a Mac this old. In the end, we still weren't able to positively identify it. In any case (to give you some background), the Mac 128k was introduced around January 1984, has a 512x384 B&W screen, 128k of RAM (that's 0.125 megabytes for you power-users out there), and no internal hard disk. It boots off of a 400k floppy. So this is my problem. The oldest system software available via FTP at Apple's Software Library is System 6.0.3, which is available only as an 800k disk image. When tried, the little Mac burps it out and resumes blinking the looking-for-boot-device icon. The history books say this Mac shipped with System Software version 0.0 through 1.0, but I'll be darned if I can find them anywhere on the Net. I'm not even sure if the SuperDrive on a 9600 can synthesize a 400k floppy anymore. I'm still somewhat amazed that any Mac could boot AND run an application (MacDraw?) in 128k of RAM! That's only 1/32nd the size of my disk cache setting. Any ideas? And NO, I don't want to turn it into an aquarium. :) - Jeff Macalintal -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************