Subject: Info-Mac Digest V15 #199 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Mon, 15 Sep 97 Volume 15 : Issue 199 Today's Topics: Problem with pegasus [A] Music and Audio Macs [Q] Mac OS 8 and Tabbed windows [Q] MAC-OS - German-localized? International-English? [R] What is this group? Al Bloom's Comments Converting to-from Nisus Writer DOS CARD, 6100 and HEAT Dual adapater for ethernet/monitor on SE/30? Epson Color Stylus 600 on LC2 Future Direction of Info-Mac (fwd) Help! Sybase and MUI apps or virus? older shrinkwraps OT/PPP and PPP Menu TCP/IP slip error # What is this group? Where to find System 6.0.7 WorldBuilder 1.2 The Info-Mac Network operates by the volunteer efforts of: Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan, Michael Bean, Matt Bauer, Liam Breck The Info-Mac Archive is available at 50 public and private sites around the world. 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We'd also like to thank AOL, who has supplied the hardware the main info-mac machine runs on. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V15 #199" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 8:44:17 -0400 From: "Diane Roy-Friolet" Subject: Problem with pegasus Hi, I used to have a window poping up telling me the subject of the message I received. I have a StarMax 3000/180. When I'm working on another Power Macintosh, it's working well. I checked the configuration of pegasus on both machines and they're exacly the same. Is there anything missing in my operating system that would bring back this window? Diane Roy-Friolet ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 13:55:22 -0500 From: Trevor Subject: [A] Music and Audio Macs Jarome Matthew wrote: > My second interest would be in opinions from users in the music and audio > industry on which PowerMac model and configuration under $2000 over 160 Mhz > would be the best for audio production... (I know Performas were a problem > due to something related to internal 8 bit audio conversion...) The answer depends greatly on what music and audio programs you are running. If you are at the pro level with Sonic Solutions or Digidesign, then those companies maintain lists of "approved" Macs. The URLs are: Sonic Solutions: http://www.sonicsolutions.com/html/sonicstudio/sonicstudio_compatibility.html Digidesign: http://www.digidesign.com/Newdigiweb/Digiservice/Compatofolder/compatindex.html Macromedia, who makes Deck II and Soundedit 16, maintains a site with some compatibility information. Try: http://www.macromedia.com/support/deck/ http://www.macromedia.com/support/soundedit/ For some BIAS Peak compatibility info: http://www.bias-inc.com/toolkit/sysreq_frame.html If you are using another program that I haven't mentioned, check the ReadMe file, or the company website. They should have all the info you need. The shorter answer to your question? You are safer with a 604 series (or even 601) processor than 603 series. You are safer with faster processors, but not the bleeding edge of technology. And (as much as I dislike saying it) you are a little safer with a genuine Apple than a clone. This is not to say that people haven't recorded, edited, and mastered good audio using 603 based clones running at 120 MHz (for example). YMMV. Trevor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 97 15:03:51 -0400 From: Bailey Ford Subject: [Q] Mac OS 8 and Tabbed windows I've been very pleased with the upgrade to 8, but I have noticed one tiny annoying thing. I keep a few folders of aliases to my most used applications tabbed a the bottom of my screen. The titles fit neatly into the reduced 'tab' for a few days and then the size of the 'tab' shrinks and truncates the titles of the folders. It's easy to fix - I just drag them out as windows again and then drag them back as tabs. Still, I am interested to see if anyone else has this problem and if anyone has a more permanent or more elegant fix for it. Yours, Bailey Ford bailey@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 14:59:28 +0200 From: Thomas Rohde Subject: [Q] MAC-OS - German-localized? International-English? Lieber Sven, and dear all others who replied to my question THANKS EVERYBODY FOR YOUR MOST VALUABLE INFO!! I dig it how supportive and knowledgeable y'all are. A standard phrase of mine -- when I again showed off to my friends/colleagues how cool & geeky I am -- is: I GOT IT ON INFO-MAC! > I use US-versions since 7.6 on two "German" macs [..] > [..] video editing in the PAL format doesn't seem to be a problem. thanks a lot. It seems I'm gonna get myself a US system soon. Funny thing only is that none of the German distributors seem to be supportive in this case. UpToDate doesn't have and doesn't seem to want; Claris Germany doesn't have and doesn't want... I'll check Claris Int'l, otherwise I'll have to go to InnoTech or similar in Germany, who doesn't give me the option to upgrade for a cheaper price. Everybody of the official distributors sez "US system *is not to be sold* in Germany", as if Apple or the Government disapprove of this. May be poss that I need to get new/English ISDN software some day, but that'll only be when I abandon my LAN. Yes: Quark XPress only runs on the localized system it's built for -- exycept if you get the *dongled* international version: XPress Passport, but they'll give one a discount when upgrading to XPress 4, so I made no real loss by getting the ca. $150 (?) Passport. XPress 4 will be international (and dongled!) for all users. And I'll re-name my CD play list to the English name so I can re-use my long list of music CDs. Okay, thanks all, I'll update you (the list) if any contrary news should pass my way. Cheers, Tom -- TOM ROHDE MEDIA DESIGN BONOBO.COMmunication Thomas Rohde, Dorfstrasse 3, 29646 Bispingen / Huetzel, GERMANY Phone (++49)-5194-6741 office / -6746 private / -6742 FAX ;-) signature updated: September 14, 1997, 14:58:40 q-: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:05:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mark E. Ingram" Subject: [R] What is this group? Adam Engst wrote: > There are plenty of issues here to think about - what do > people think Info-Mac should, in an ideal world, be? My perception was that the transfer to new server digs - and the resulting hiatus - slowed down the subsequent postings. I personally like the digest mode, am glad to get the notices of software additions, but still like the Q & A postings the best. Yes, there *are* a lot of specialized (and useful) "botique" lists, and yes, the noise level on the Internet has risen dramatically, but I still think (and hope) that there will remain a need for the Info-Mac Digest. Let's give it more time before declaring the institution moribund (or already dead). Regards, Mark E. Ingram MarkT@Mo-Net.Com (also mingram@mail.orion.org) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 16:46:11 -0700 From: Don Chesnut and Cathy Jo Cassidy Subject: Al Bloom's Comments I have been a regular follower of the digest over the last several years and have always found it to be helpful for keeping up on the latest in useful (or non-) Mac programs and help with problems. That said, I think there is real merit to the idea of splitting the digest into two parts--"programs" and "help." When I get the digest (I download it from comp-sys-mac-digests) I usually scan the programs to see if the titles interest me but I read all of the help requests or replies. Splitting the digest would make this a little easier. I also like the recently posted idea of making a portion of IMD a "digest of digests" although I find it difficult to believe the moderators would be able to devote the time for the effort this would take. I'm sure there are many like me who have never posted but have relied on the digest for an intelligent source of assistance and a comprehensive list of what's new. The moderators have my greatest thanks for your past efforts and support for whatever you decide will be done...you haven't let us down yet. Don ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 07:49:39 -0500 From: jhbauer@akula.com (Jonathan Bauer) Subject: Converting to-from Nisus Writer Hello all: I've used Nisus Writer off and on over the years. I want to use it more frequently but I really need to be able to open WordPerfect (Mac) 3.x files. Tried the Nisus 5.01 demo (updated to 504). No go. Tried DataViz 9 (what comes with system 8). Sort of. Loses a lot of formatting. Loses too much formatting. Any sugggestions? Also, there was a Nisus mailing list. Would someone post or email the listserve address. Then I'll try posting my query there. TIA, /jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:37:26 -0700 From: Tom Robinson Subject: DOS CARD, 6100 and HEAT Recently my collegue and I bought APPLE DOS cards for our PowerMac 6100s. I was waiting for my new internal harddrive to arrive before I installed mine. In the meantime my collegue installed his and has been leaving his case top off due to the heat generated where the card is.. He initially became aware because an ejected CDROM was quite HOT. Has anybody experienced excessive heat generated from these cards? Has anyone installed extra fans, and if so was it easy to do? Are there any URLs discussing this matter? Thanks in advance for your help. My computer sits in one of those computer cabinets and I was already wondering if I should be worrying about heat generation. I am eagerly awaiting responses before I install my card. Thanks in advance, Tom Robinson Sales Point Business Systems www.sales-point.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 11:11:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Gordon Dohle Subject: Dual adapater for ethernet/monitor on SE/30? Does anyone know of an adapter that will allow both an ethernet card (MacCon with horizontal pass through) and a Lapis Colorserver card work simultaneously in an SE/30? It needs to be an L-shaped adapter to fit on the MacCon card. ------------ Gordon Dohle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 15:31:24 -0400 From: Ephraim Fithian Subject: Epson Color Stylus 600 on LC2 A friend called last week for suggestions on replacing he aging ImageWriter 1 printer. I suggested the Color Stylus 600, since the output is great and the cost is reasonable, over the soon-to-be-dropped Apple (HP) color printers. She picked one up at Circuit City, where she was assured by the very helpful salesperson that it would work fine with her LC2. After unpacking, she noticed that the printer extensions were on a CD ROM and not on floppy, but for the additional charge of $9.95, they would be glad to send her the 2 floppies. She called me. Having previously installed a 600 on my daughters LC475, I just copied the disk folders from the CD ROM and took them to her house, but I asked to watch while she installed them. The read me file noted that the 600 would not work with an LC2. I called Epson (30 minutes wait) and the technician said there would be no problem, but that it needed more memory, at least 8 MB. Her LC2 was the el cheapo model, 4MB RAM and 40 MB HD, and a 12 inch RGB monitor. I had some old Quadra 700 RAM lying around, so I installed 2-4MB simms bringing the total to 10MB. I trashed all the extra copies of AOL she had on the drive (4, I think). This gave some disk space to work in. The LC2 would still not recognize the Epson 600, even though the software installed correctly. I thought perhaps they had changed the software, so I went to my Mac and connected to Epson's home page, looking for the software. I found it and downloaded it, but it was the same. I decided to check in the tech support section for downloads, and there I found a patch for using the 600 and 800 on an LC2. Once installed, the printer works fine, although very slowly, since the computer does the processing. Ephraim Fithian http://www.enter.net/~fithian 8600/300MHz/98MB/4GB/4VRam/17se2/GV56kX2/ZIP/CD24/SnapScan/Epson SC800 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:20:54 -0400 From: "Michael G. Schabert" Subject: Future Direction of Info-Mac (fwd) >Discussion messages are sent to the submission address, approved, and go >directly to the members of the list. This will allow the list to gain some >of the immediacy of a newsgroup, and should make participation easier, >since one can simply reply to a message, and will be able to quote, etc- >without having to cut and paste from the digest. To be honest, if you used a decent email program this wouldn't be a problem. In Eudora, the digests come oput as an attachment which when double-clicked gives you a whole mailbox window of the messages. You can correctly reply to these, which will send the reply to the original sender (nice for not cluttering the list with too many trivial responses) >I prefer single messages to bulk digests, as I can read each message as I >have time, whereas with a digest I either have to sit down and read the >entire thing, or read half and never come back because the message is no >longer flagged as new and I forget about it. Again, I suggest Eudora, as the individual messages will still be flagged as unread. Pine's great when you want to send something quickly from un*x, but in today's world, it's not all that good of an email client. Eudora can be used even if you're stuck with just shell access as it doesn't require TCP access. Just my opinion, Mike Bikers don't *DO* taglines. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 97 10:30:03 +0100 From: Rodney Schmidt Subject: Help! Sybase and MUI apps or virus? A most unusual occurrence: two Macs in a lab running MUI and Sybase Config from Sybase to access our university UNIX based library catalog server have totally crashed, one after the other. Trying to figure out what has happened. First symptom is corruption of app, finder, and system icons, then two directories, then in one case, a second hard drive icon appearing out of nowhere. Don't know if there is a new virus out there or if it this particular application. Both Macs (7200/75 with 24 Mbs RAM, system 7.6.1) had to be reinitialized and then instaled MAC OS 8. On quitting Sybase again and shutting down, system error 41, shut down stopped. Please respond to me directly if anyone can offer advice. Thank you very much. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:45:16 -0400 From: "Michael G. Schabert" Subject: older shrinkwraps >It seems that with the advent of ShrinkWrap 3 (/disk/shrinkwrap-30.hqx), >earlier versions of ShrinkWrap have been purged from the archive. Is this >fair? The older versions were freeware/shareware. This new version is >commercial; what is posted is a 15-day self-disabling demo. Many people may >not wish to purchase it; why should they be robbed of their chance to >download a perfectly good working freeware utility? If you want freeware, Apple still offers Disk Copy with all of the older-shrinkwrap's features. Mike Bikers don't *DO* taglines. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 14:22:20 -0400 From: Ephraim Fithian Subject: OT/PPP and PPP Menu Just a note that PPP Menu, available free from rockstar, works with OT/PPP as well as FreePPP on my 8600/300 OS8 GV56x2. Ephraim Fithian http://www.enter.net/~fithian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 97 13:22:34 EDT From: Tony Wayne Subject: TCP/IP slip error # I recently upgraded my 7200 to system 8.0. I use InteSlip to connect to a server. I have been using this conncetion method for about 2 years without any problems. For 2 weeks everything worked fine. Then one day while using Eudora computer quit functioning. sine then I have zapped the p-ram too many times to count. I have reinstalled system 8.0 3, THREE, times. I even reinstalled system 7.6.1. No matter what I do I get that same erro message when I try to send or recieve mail, I gett the error -23009 (This is a TCP resource missing) and then Eudora goes on to say {TCP:544} when I try to read mail and {TCP:64} when I try to send. Then is goes on to say "they are already 64 bit streams open or 64 UCP open. What does this mean? HELP I've called Apple -no help there and I they gave me no options. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO APPLE(?) I tried to connect with InterSlip and Claris E-mailer lite (no good), I tried Netscape with InterSlip (Unable to make a socket connection was the error there) I tried IE 3 and IE 4 beta (No connection luck there.) Please is anyone smarter than APPLE? Do you know what might be wrong. [btw I doing mail now via an online text editor.] -tony e-mail answers to the account below would appreciated. -- Tony Wayne Those that can, do, wayne@pen.k12.va.us -those that understand, teach. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 00:03:06 -0400 From: "W. R. Wing" Subject: What is this group? Well, I noted "Uncle Al" Bloom's posting the other night, but reading info-mac from a hotel room isn't conducive to composing responses, so I put it off. I've been reading this list for too many years. (How many of today's readers remember when the info-mac community banded together to buy Sumex-Aim a bigger disk drive so the contributions wouldn't fall off the back end so fast? I wonder if the list of contributors still exists in an archive someplace?) I must say that over the years, I've looked into other lists and discussion groups, but I always came back here. This was the place where knowledgeable folks tended to hang out, and where honest questions (both naive and sophisticated) always received knowledgeable answers. This is a real contrast to most of the lists "out there" where answers tend far too often fall someplace between speculation and rumor. I don't want Info-mac to change, I hope those knowledgeable (frequently professional) users who may have drifted away during the hiatus will slowly drift back. I'd ask the moderators to not do anything rash until we get a little further into our new quarters. Thanks, Bill William R. Wing wrw@ornl.gov (423) 574-8839 Network Architect for the Oak Ridge National Lab ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:50:36 +0200 From: cbuser@access.ch (Christian F Buser) Subject: Where to find System 6.0.7 rgall@macollamh.ucd.ie wrote: > I have tried a number of times to download 6.0.8 (via Netscape) from the > Apple SW site but with no success. I keep getting a dialog box saying > "Mac-binhex 40. > > Warning: unrecognised encoding" despite the fact that the files are meant > to be self-extracting. When I continue with the downloading of the > files they appear to be bugged in some way and there is no way to install > the system files. "BinHex" has nothing to do with self-extracting or not. It is a way to store/transport Mac files on/over non-Mac machines. You need to de-binhex the files first, then you get your self-extracting files. Try to get StuffIt Expander from someone (or the BinHex application itself, or another utility which de-binhexes) from a friend or a user group. Good luck, Christian. -- Christian F. Buser - phone (+41-56) 426 64 86 Obere Kirchzelg 12, CH-5430 Wettingen (Switzerland) Look at ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:42:39 -0600 From: Bruce Carter Subject: WorldBuilder 1.2 >World Builder is Public Domain; however, William C. Appleton retains the >>copyright on the name, code, and ideas. Sorry, but this sentence makes no legal sense. Either it's in the public domain, or it is not. If it is, then there is no copyright protection attached to it. If it is not, then it is simply free, but not in the public domain. And, you can't copyright ideas, only the expression thereof. -- Bruce Carter, Division Manager Instructional Development Division SMITC, Boise State University, Boise, ID 83725 (208)385-1851@voice mailto:bcarter@mentor.idbsu.edu (208)385-1856@fax http://mentor.idbsu.edu/BruceCarter/home.html (208)384-2084@pager -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************