Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #371 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Thu, 18 Nov 99 Volume 16 : Issue 371 Today's Topics: [*] Aladdin Expander 5.5 [*] Aladdin FlashBack 1.1.3 [*] DragStrip 3.7, the Ultimate Desktop Organizer [*] Drop Stuff 5.5 [*] Installer Maker 6.0 [*] Mac Trivia Challenge 3.0 [*] Play it Cool 3.34 [*] Shrink Wrap 3.5 Trialware [*] Space Saver Update 5.0.1 [*] Spring Cleaning Update 3.0.1 [*] Stuffit Deluxe 5.1.5 Update [*] Stuffit Lite 3.6 [*] Touch-3D Version 2.1.2 - Now Create Real 3D Models! [Q] File Attachments in Outlook Express Apple Data Detectors How d'ya get off the scooter ??? LaserJet vs. LaserWriter Premire 5.1 Export Setting default print page size under OS8.6 The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. 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We'd also like to thank AOL for the main Info-Mac machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V16 #371" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:29:23 -0600 From: Hannes Hofer Subject: I have encountered a strange "feature" with Apple's Remote Access and it is causing me some problems. I have a small ethernet network set up at home with 2 older powermacs running system 8.1, an Imac running 8.6, and a HP printer connected to the network via a ethernet-to-localtalk hardware bridge. Everything works fine on all three computers until I connect to my employer's (a.k.a. Rice Univesity, a.k.a. my inter provider)dial-up pool, but once I connect, all university's Appletalk zones show up in the chooser window on the Imac, and my local printer driver becomes inaccessible, so I can't print. I can still print from the other two computers and I can still share files between all three computers. When I disconnect from the internet the driver becomes available again and I can print. Is there any way to: A. Prevent Remote Access from using Appletalk while talking to Rice via the modem? I have tried changing things in the TCP/IP, Appletalk, and Remote Access Control panels, but nothing has worked so far. or B. Configure dial-up script, so the appletalk zones won't be accessible through the dail-up? or C. Setting up a local zone without spending a lot of money on equipment and software. This is just a shot in the dark as I know nothing about it. Any other suggestions for solutions and work-arounds will be appreciated. Hannes Hofer ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Peter Thomas Subject: [*] Aladdin Expander 5.5 Aladdin Systems, Inc.'s freeware Expander products allow you to decompress, decode, convert and access the most popular compression archive formats, including StuffIt (c) (.sit), Zip (zip), UUencode (.uu), MacBinary (bin), and BinHex (.hqx). Aladdin Expander for Windows (tm) also supports MIME/Base64 (.mime), Arc (.arc), Arj (.arj), and gzip (.gzip), and more. With the addition of the StuffIt Engine (tm) (included with DropStuff (tm) and StuffIt Deluxe (tm), StuffIt Expander (tm) for Mac supports Mime/Base64, Arc, gzip, Lha, CompactPro, AppleLink, and more. These easy-to-use, universal file access programs are available for Windows, Macintosh and DOS. With comprehensive access to the most online file formats, Aladdin's Expanders are the only expansion utilities you need. [Archived as /info-mac/cmp/aladdin-expander-55.hqx; 975 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Peter Thomas Subject: [*] Aladdin FlashBack 1.1.3 Requirements: System 7 (System 7.1.1 or higher for full drag-n-drop capability) License: Trialware, 30-day Description: Ever overwritten a document by mistake and wished you could get it back? Now you can with Aladdin FlashBack! It's Simple To Use! FlashBack allows you to recreate any document just as it was when it was saved. Every time you save a FlashBack-protected file, you create a permanent record that you can go back to any time you want. Now your ability to "undo" changes is limited only by how often you save! Save as often as you like without falling victim to "saver's remorse!" Hey, we all make mistakes. FlashBack makes it painless to correct them. Get FlashBack, and save your important work as often as you like without the worry of accidentally saving over something you didn't mean to. Ever have a client who never knows what they want, and then, out of the blue suddenly they do? And it was that version you showed them three months ago? Now you can give it to them, instantly. Because you've got it. Because you've got FlashBack. [Archived as /info-mac/cfg/aladdin-flashback-113.hqx; 821 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Peter Thomas Subject: [*] DragStrip 3.7, the Ultimate Desktop Organizer Requirements: Mac OS 7.1.2 or higher 7.5 or later preferred, 68020 License: shareware, 15-day Description: DragStrip, the Ultimate Desktop Organizer DragStrip for Mac allows you to launch, find, organize, and access applications and documents quickly and efficiently. Say goodbye to cluttered desktops and digging through browser windows to find what you are looking for. DragStrip is the ultimate desktop organization tool and much more! The DragStrip products are shareware. You can download the software and try it out for up to 15 days. All of the features will work without registering, but so that we can continue to support and improve our shareware products, we request that you send in the registration fee. Register DragStrip 3.7 for Macintosh - $20 You can purchase and receive your registration number instantly via our online store. Use this link: if you're ready to pay your shareware registration fee. NOTE: DragStrip for Macintosh 3.7 was released on March 29, 1999 and includes support for new MacOS 8.5 features, better compatibility with Kaleidoscope, as well as improved performance. Version 3.7 is a free upgrade to registered users of DragStrip 3.0 or later. Go to: to see what has changed. MacOS 8.5 users please read this: [Archived as /info-mac/gui/drag-strip-37.hqx; 1296 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Peter Thomas Subject: [*] Drop Stuff 5.5 Send Files Faster, Save Time and Money Aladdin DropStuff compresses your files and folders up to 98% of their original size, making your files smaller so they transmit faster over the Internet or local networks. StuffIt (c) compresses your files up to 20% smaller than other compression utilities, saving you time and money online. With the tightest, smallest compression available, you'll also save lots of disk space! Hassle-Free File Exchange with Windows and Mac Users Sending compressed files to someone on a different platform? Don't worry! DropStuff, combined with Aladdin Expander (tm), provides access to all the popular compressed and encoded files on the Internet. It's Easy as 1-2-3 Drag, drop, done! If you know how to use your mouse to drag items to a desktop icon, you know how to use DropStuff. You'll be saving more time and space in no time. [Archived as /info-mac/cmp/drop-stuff-55.hqx; 2591 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Peter Thomas Subject: [*] Installer Maker 6.0 Requirements: Mac OS 7.0.1 or higher, 8MB of RAM License: Contact dev.sales@aladdinsys.com for licensing info Description: StuffIt InstallerMaker 6.0 includes all the tools you need to install, uninstall, resource-compress or update software in one complete, easy-to-use package. Thousands of software publishers, from Apple to Xerox, distribute their wares using award-winning Aladdin StuffIt technology. Utilizing the power of the new StuffIt Engine, InstallerMaker 6.0 creates installers faster and smaller than ever, decreasing download time off servers and reducing the number of disks needed to distribute installers. These time and cost savings go straight to your bottom line! InstallerMaker's intuitive point and click interface makes setting destinations and installation conditions a breeze. Record those actions as scripts or build your own to automate future builds and reduce the workload of your engineering staff. Whether you're a developer of high-end, complex applications, simpler utilities, shareware/freeware, an IS manager or an ISP who needs to distribute files quickly and easily, the new InstallerMaker 6.0 is the complete installation solution for you. Here's just some of what's new in InstallerMaker 6.0: * New, advanced compression is faster and tighter (average of 15%!) * Fully OS 8.6-compatible * Significantly improved scripting support * Try out installation before actual build * New iSupport menu * Power PC-native application * New automated build system example * Auto-Rename Existing File function * Find Task - easily set the task/find, failed/succeeded flag * Improved e-commerce feature set * Custom installer icon support * Network installers support expansion of StuffIt 5.x archives and MacBinary III file decoding [Archived as /info-mac/dev/installer-maker-60.hqx; 7302 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Brian Kelley Subject: [*] Mac Trivia Challenge 3.0 Mac Trivia Challenge 3.0 So you think you're a MacExpert? Take the Mac Trivia Challenge! Mac Trivia Challenge tests your knowledge of the Mac OS, Macintosh hardware, the history of Apple Computer, Mac games, the Internet, easter eggs, tips, tricks & shortcuts, and much, much more! This is the third release of Mac Trivia Challenge; CompleatMac Software is making all five versions available again, so this version should NOT replace earlier versions in the Archive. Mac Trivia Challenge is $10 shareware. It is not disabled in any way, so registration is purely voluntary. Brian Kelley mailto:bkelley1@nycap.rr.com CompleatMac Software http://home.nycap.rr.com/compleatmac/ [Archived as /info-mac/data/mac-trivia-30.hqx; 1981 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Russell Clarke Subject: [*] Play it Cool 3.34 Play it Cool is a QuickTime and QuickTime VR movie player and simple editor. It plays all types of QuickTime movies, including "mov", "MIDI", "MPEG", "AVI", "VCD" and "QuickTime VR". It also opens many image formats, like "PICT", "TIFF", "GIF", "JPEG" and "PNG"; and sound formats, like "snd", "AIFF", "WAV", "MP2", "MP3" and "AU". Note that QuickTime 4 is required to open some of these formats. It is a "fat" application, plays movies very smoothly and contains many features not available in other movie players. A Japanese version is also available from http://www.bridge1.com Users commonly report better playback performance from Play it Cool than from other movie players. CHANGES FROM PREVIOUS VERSION (3.33): ===================================== - Fixed incompatibility with Stage mode and Mac OS 9. - Moved "Preferences" menu item to the Edit menu. - Always includes the first frame when recompressing movies. - Fixed bug which sometimes occurred when creating Movie-Applications. MAIN FEATURES: ============== - load movie into RAM and set monitor to best depth for smoother playback - Stage mode which hides the background and plays movies at optimum speed - useful information displayed about movies - jog and shuttle controls - real-time display of SMPTE time code, frame number and frames per second - can display remaining time and remaining frames - movies can be played up to five times faster than normal, forwards or reverse - can stream movies over the Internet - ability to compress movies and pictures - cut, copy, paste and the ability to add sound to movies - create self-playing Movie-Applications - make movies playable on non-Mac OS computers - can export a movie's sound and frames - printing - preferences - balloon help - platinum interface [Archived as /info-mac/gst/mov/play-it-cool-334.hqx; 497 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Peter Thomas Subject: [*] Shrink Wrap 3.5 Trialware Requirements: System 7.1.1 or later (See notes below) License: Trialware, 30-day Description: ShrinkWrap creates and mounts exact duplicates of disk images on the desktop for easy online distribution. With a simple drag and drop, you can turn a disk or files into an electronically transmittable image file and then return it to an exact copy of the original source disk. Whats new: * Easily create read/write/mount support for Apple's segmented images without using scripting software. ShrinkWrap automatically creates segmented images based on the media that is being used. * Support for HFS+ - For HFS+ users, creating a back-up image has never been easier or more reliable. * Option to not copy unused blocks of a volume - This benefits users by assuring that only information they choose to include is copied, and saving media and hard drive space when the image is compressed. * Supports Navigation Services - Open/Save dialogs are now movable, support multiple selections, and allow easy access to recent, favorite and network folders and servers- even those not already mounted in the Finder. * Interface Improvements - ShrinkWrap is Appearance Manager savvy and has an updated Preferences window (similar to DropStuff and Expander). This unites the ShrinkWrap interface with the System software and makes ShrinkWrap more familiar to new users. Requirements: ShrinkWrap supports Macintosh and Power Macintosh computers running Mac OS 7.1.1 and higher. It contains both 68K and PowerPC native code, is AppleEvent aware, 32-bit clean, AV, '040 cache and virtual memory compatible. Although a Macintosh SE or better is required for full functionality, the Mac Plus can still use ShrinkWrap to mount, convert and verify disk image files. The Component Manager, available with QuickTime 1.5 or System 7.1 or later, is required to handle compressed or encrypted disk images. [Archived as /info-mac/disk/shrink-wrap-35.hqx; 1091 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Peter Thomas Subject: [*] Space Saver Update 5.0.1 This installation will update the ~StuffIt SpaceSaver(tm) 5.0 control panel to version 5.0.1. StuffIt SpaceSaver 5.0.1 fixes a bug that prevented some applications from being able to ÒSaveÓ files correctly when SpaceSaver 5.0 was installed. Regarding StuffIt SpaceSaver(tm): Aladdin Systems does not recommend the use of StuffIt SpaceSaver with Mac OS(r) 8.0 or higher. [Archived as /info-mac/cmp/space-saver-update-501.hqx; 180 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Peter Thomas Subject: [*] Spring Cleaning Update 3.0.1 Requirements: Spring Cleaning 3.0 License: n/a Description: New update available as of March 24, 1999 There is a new update available for users of Spring Cleaning 3.0. Spring Cleaning version 3.0.1 updates: 1. A bug that affects both 68K and PowerMacs that would result in Out of Memory messages or causing intermittent quits has been fixed. 2. A bug that incorrectly displays volume sizes over 4 Gigs has been updated as well. 3. With Document Finder some invisible files are not found and do not show up in the Search Results window, this has been corrected in update 3.0.1. 4. The new StuffIt 5.1 engine is included in the 3.0.1 update, this will handle the issue of having to install separate Text Encoding Converters. With the 3.0.1 update users will not need to install the Text Encoding Converters. If Spring Cleaning 3.0 users are already using the StuffIt 5.1 engine (found in DropStuff 5.1 and the StuffIt Engine SDK) then they don't need to worry about this issue. Once downloaded, double-click the update to run it. You will be presented with important installation instructions - be sure to read them. To run the installer: 1. Restart your computer with extensions off/disabled. 2. Locate the file Spring Cleaning 3.0.1 Updater 3. Run the installer.* 4. Restart again with your extensions enabled. * If the updater does not find a copy of SpringCleaning then you may need to rebuild your Desktop by restarting your computer while holding down the [option] + [Comand] keys until the dialog, "Are you sure you want to rebuild the Desktop on ?" NOTE: If you have a version of Spring Cleaning that is earlier than 3.0 (i.e. Spring Cleaning 2.0), this update will be of no use to you. (To upgrade to the most current version, Spring Cleaning version 3.0, please visit our Spring Cleaning 3.0 Upgrade Information page at: ) [Archived as /info-mac/disk/spring-cleaning-update-301.hqx; 1809 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Peter Thomas Subject: [*] Stuffit Deluxe 5.1.5 Update Send Files Faster, Access Virtually Anything! The award-winning, industry-standard StuffIt Deluxe makes your files smaller, so they transmit faster wherever they're going, whether it's across the office or around the world. Plus, you'll get more onto a hard drive, Zip(r) disk or any type of storage media. And with the most comprehensive array of translators and decoders available, StuffIt Deluxe makes exchanging files with other Macs, PCs or Unix-based computers easy! StuffIt Deluxe 5.1.5 is a free Mac OS(r) 9 compatible update. [Archived as /info-mac/cmp/stuffIt-deluxe-update-515.hqx; 5985 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: Peter Thomas Subject: [*] Stuffit Lite 3.6 Requirements: System 6.0.4 or higher (7.1.1 or higher for drag-n-drop ability) License: Shareware, 15-day Description: About StuffIt Lite *Fast Stuffing and UnStuffing StuffIt Lite 3.6 is accelerated for Power Macintosh. Expansion of files on many platforms is accelerated. StuffIt Lite compresses files an average of 60%, creating a document called an archive. Archives save disk space, speed modem and network file transfers, and make backups easier. StuffIt is the international standard of file compression and archiving on all major online services (including America Online and CompuServe) and thousands of bulletin board systems. *Drag and Drop Support StuffIt Lite 3.6 has drag and drop support making compression and expansion easy to perform. To expand a file in a StuffIt archive, the user simply drags the file onto the desktop. A file can be Stuffed by dragging it onto an archive or into an open archive window. (This drag and drop functionality requires System 7.1.1 or higher.) *AppleScript Support A suite of Apple events for registered copies of StuffIt Lite allow the program to be automated using Apple's scripting technology. StuffIt Lite is also fully recordable; just like a tape recorder, a user can perform a series of actions and the script will be automatically written. *Other Information StuffIt Lite 3.6 features other capabilities found in previous versions, including the ability to password protect archives, to create self-extracting archives and to segment archives for fitting large files across multiple floppy disks. StuffIt Lite 3.6 comes complete with an online guide. Aladdin is offering StuffIt Lite 3.6 free to registered users of StuffIt Lite 3.5. Otherwise, StuffIt Lite 3.6 upgrades cost $15 for all other previous versions. StuffIt Lite is copyrighted shareware. After using StuffIt Lite for 15 days, users are honor-bound to send Aladdin a $30 registration fee. By registering StuffIt Lite, the user receives added benefits including AppleScriptability, free technical support and updates, enhanced features, and special pricing on other Aladdin products. [Archived as /info-mac/cmp/stuffIt-lite-36.hqx; 847 K] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1999 From: julian@sierra.net Subject: [*] Touch-3D Version 2.1.2 - Now Create Real 3D Models! New Touch-3D Version 2.1 Released - Now Create Real 3D Models! It includes several new unfold layout functions and much improved import/export filters. This program is only available on the Mac. Introduction Designers have always used models to visualize their ideas. In the past models required craftsmanship and a lot of time consuming manual work. Then along came computers with completely new and exciting sets of applications for computer graphics, computer aided design, 3D modeling and rendering. These programs have great power for creating photo realistic images, having color, surface structure, shadows, and so on but... The problem is that these images remain in the computer and even when they simulate 3D are still only in the 2D world. Designers prefer physical models that they can see, feel and touch. Like a picture is worth a thousand words, one model is like a thousand pictures and can give a much more concrete cognition of an object. This is what Touch-3D is all about. A three dimensional object is first designed on screen and can be unfolded automatically to maximize the use of any building material. Boats, tents, buildings and any 3D object you can imagine is first designed on screen and using the smart unfolding algorithms in the program, unfolded and then printed out. Once printed and cut along the edges, the model can then be folded back together to create the actual physical 3D object. This is a lot quicker, easier and less expensive then carving a wooden model or moulding from plastic or clay and allows for quick changes and updates. Touch-3D is easy to use and comes with a powerful range of drawing and modeling tools, allowing you to create sophisticated 3D models. Experienced Mac users will feel at home right away with the interface and all the tools. Touch-3D compliments other 3D, photo and illustration programs and adds a new dimension to their abilities. [Archived as /info-mac/gst/grf/touch-3d-212.hqx; 5232 K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:24:40 -0800 From: "Jason Chafin" Subject: [Q] File Attachments in Outlook Express Does anybody know the best way to attach files in Outlook Express so that Windows users can receive easily? Currently my preferences are set to encode as BinHex; will that work? I must communicate with my Windows oriented office and exchange MS Word and Excel files regularly. Whenever I receive files from other Windows users they're Zipped and Stuffit Expander usually takes care of that. But I Outlook Preferences doesn't list Zip as an attachment option. Email directly or post to the group. Thanks, Jason -- Jason's permanent email: jchafin@bigfoot.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The problem with land is that they stopped making it some time ago. - Mark Twain ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:02:41 -0500 From: rfg@his.com Subject: Apple Data Detectors Can anyone explain what, precisely, Apple Data Detectors do??? Many thanks, Bob G. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:27:50 +0900 From: Magnus Hoek Subject: How d'ya get off the scooter ??? Hi there This list is getting so serious so I just must ask: How do you get off the scooter in TombRaider 3 (3rd level I think). A friend of me is playing it on a PB 300MHz which means that he doesn't have the normal keyboard... Cheriooo and TIA Magnus (magnush@fusion.naka.jaeri.go.jp) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:04:18 -0500 From: "Dave Garrett" Subject: LaserJet vs. LaserWriter Howdy y'all, I had an interesting problem today...and now that I've had a while to think about it, it's not the first time I've seen this. Perhaps my experience will help someone else. We moved some printers around today. Our AppleTalk naming convention is simply the printer's location (room number). I used Apple Printer Utility to rename an HP LaserJet 4M to (oops) exactly the same name as a LaserWriter 16/600 which had also been moved, but hadn't yet been renamed. Presto: the Apple printer disappeared from the AppleTalk network completely, even after I renamed the LaserJet to something else. I tried shutting the LaserJet off, and restarting the LaserWriter. No good. And of course, since it was missing from AppleTalk, I couldn't rename the LaserWriter; Printer Utility couldn't see it. The Windoze 95 LaserWriter utility *was* able to see it. So it was still on the network, just not via AppleTalk. And I'm pretty sure there's no hardware way to reset the AppleTalk name on a LaserWriter 16/600, short of opening the foolish thing up and pulling out anything that looks like a battery or a capacitor. Eventually I removed the LaserWriter from the network and connected it directly to just one Mac; then it showed up. I was able to rename it to a unique name, and when I put it back on the LAN it worked fine. Now, when two HP printers have the same name, there is some weirdness; one will be called "HP LaserJet 4M" and the next one will show up as "HP LaserJet 4M1" or something like that. But at least through trial and error you can figure out which is which and rename them. But with an Apple printer and an HP printer, it seems as if the Apple printer just loses the fight and sulks. Anyone want to add to this, perhaps shed some light on what is really going on, or a better way to get the LaserWriter out of its fugue state? Bottom line is "don't be a bonehead like me." Thanks bunches, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:10:22 -0600 From: Kurt Willey Subject: Premire 5.1 Export I am trying to help someone with a G4. They are trying to export a movie from Adobe Premire 5.1 to a digital camera using firewire. It is not working at all. I am going to look at drivers, etc. tomorrow, and the above is the only information I currently have. The biggest problem is that this needs to be done by Nov 18 (tomorrow) at 3:00 CST. Anyone have any sugestions?? Other than not waiting to the last minute to ask for help?!?!? Any help is greatly appreciated!!! Kurt kwilley@saunix.sau.edu Kurt Willey Computer Technician Mississippi Bend AEA Office: 344-6328 or 1-800-947-2329 x328 Digital Phone: 319-570-4564 Worried about Y2K? Buy a Macintosh. Y2K safe since 1984. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:33:06 +0100 From: "F.J. Lalor" Subject: Setting default print page size under OS8.6 Since I upgraded to 8.6 I have noticed that Page Setup in most of my applications defaults to 'A4 Small' or (occasionally) to 'US Letter' whereas I use only normal A4 paper. Is there a way to reset the default so that I do not have to adjust for every new document I create. To the best of my memory this was not an issue under System 7.x or earlier - I just set the page size once and that was it. Advice please? TIA - Fergus Lalor -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************