Subject: Info-Mac Digest V18 #138 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Tue, 30 Oct 01 Volume 18 : Issue 138 Today's Topics: 5400/200 RAM Question [*] 7th Guest PowerPC Patch readme [*] DragThing 4.2 [*] DragThing D-4.2 (German) [*] DragThing F-4.2 (French) [*] DragThing J-4.2 (Japanese) [*] DragThing T-4.2 (Italian) [*] EnglishLeagueManager115 [*] Glypha III 1.1b2J - Japanese Version [*] Haxial DiskCatalog 1.000 [*] Osaifu weekly1.0 Japanese [*] RPN Calculator 1.4.4a 68K [*] RPN Calculator 1.4.6 Carbon [*] RPN Calculator 1.4.6 PPC [*] TidBITS#603/29-Oct-01 [*] URL Manager Pro 3.0b18J - Japanese Version [*] VersionLoader 1.0a2 (MacOS X version) adapter for small power plug DVD region fixer Extensions Mgr: Error -116 on save Missing Extensions Mac avi players Old Afga Slidewriter pc card problem software for USB pci card? 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I wanted to upgrade to OS 8.6, so I recently bought a 64 meg DIMM, thinking I would put it in Slot #2, thus having 88 meg of RAM: 8 on the MB, 16 in slot #1 and 64 in Slot #2. Unfortunately, when I put the new DIMM in Slot #2 I rebooted and the About This Macintosh window showed I only had 56 meg of physical memory. I tried switching the DIMMs, putting the 64 in Slot #1 and the 16 in Slot #2, but it still shows only 56 meg of physical RAM. What am I doing wrong? Do I need to reconfigure something on the MB (a jumper or something) or in the OS (I did get 8.6 installed successfully with the increased memory available)? The arithmetic shows that it is only recognizing 64 minus 8, leaving 56. I think the new DIMM is correct, as it has 64 meg clearly printed on it. Maybe there's a limit if the two dimms are not the same size? If anyone knows about this problem, or has any suggestions I'd appreciate hearing from you, either through the digest or directly. I've checked apple-specs and apple-history, but neither of them tells of a unique problem with installing expanded RAM in this model. Thanks, Sam M. Hunter smhdvm@ldd.net ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 From: Dale Tournemille To: Subject: [*] 7th Guest PowerPC Patch readme ______________________________________ 7th Guest PPC Patch Written April 16, 1995 by John Stephen ______________________________________ ______________________________________ Disclaimer ______________________________________ This is an UNOFFICIAL patch for The 7th Guest . I am not an employee of Virgin Games nor do they have any idea that I have created this patch. This application has not been tested extensively and may have bugs or cause problems with The 7th Guest . However, given that The 7th Guest already has serious problems with Power Macintoshes, and given that I havent experienced any problems myself while playing a patched version of the game on my Power Macintosh, I dont believe there is any serious risk with using this software. ______________________________________ What it does ______________________________________ This application fixes a Power Macintosh incompatibility with Virgin Games The 7th Guest . This fixes a random crashing problem which occurs while playing the game on Power Macintosh computers (ie - PowerMac 6100, 7100, or 8100). This crash is caused by a bug in the part of the games code which controls the mouse/cursor in the game and that bug is fixed by this patch. ______________________________________ How to use it ______________________________________ You must have already installed The 7th Guest on your Macintosh before you can use this application to patch your game. This application can only patch the copy of The 7th Guest which is installed on your hard drive -- it can not patch the copy on the CD-ROM (CD-ROMs cant be modified). Before using this application, make sure that any virus protection software that you are running ********** ABSTRACT CROPPED ********** [Archived as /info-mac/game/com/7th-guest-ppc-patch.hqx; 11 K] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 From: James Thomson To: Subject: [*] DragThing 4.2 DragThing is the original dock designed to tidy up your Macintosh desktop. Simply drag an application from the Finder onto an empty square in a dock and then drag documents onto it as normal. Click a docked application to launch it or bring it to the front. In addition, the docks can contain files, folders, disks and servers, and there is also an option to display the currently running processes in a special dock. Major new features in this version include: * DragThing uses the native Quartz graphics of Mac OS 10.1 for an improved Aqua appearance, including an option for translucent docks, and anti-aliased icons. * You can put the Trash back on the Desktop where it belongs on Mac OS 10.1. * You can bring all the windows of an application to the front automatically when you switch to it, or by using a hot key. * Improved hierarchical contents menus for folders, including support for aliases. * Greater control over how dock items are located, using a combination of aliases and full paths. * Support for "Super Get Info" by Bare Bones Software. A full list of all the changes is here: This is a free upgrade for existing registered users of DragThing 4, $10 for registered users of previous versions, and $25 for new users. Competitive upgrades are also available for $19 to users of Aladdin DragStrip 3 and PowerOn ACTION GoMac 2. DragThing is a Carbon application which runs natively on Mac OS X, and on Mac OS 8.6 and 9 with CarbonLib 1.1 or later installed. Thanks, James [Archived as /info-mac/gui/dragthing-42.hqx; 1956 K] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 From: James Thomson To: Subject: [*] DragThing D-4.2 (German) DragThing D-4.2 is the latest German language version of my dock application DragThing. This is a free upgrade for existing registered users of DragThing 4, $10 for registered users of previous versions, and $25 for new users. Competitive upgrades are also available for $19 to users of Aladdin DragStrip 3 and PowerOn ACTION GoMac 2. DragThing is a Carbon application which runs natively on Mac OS X, and on Mac OS 8.6 and 9 with CarbonLib 1.1 or later installed. For more information, check out the official DragThing website at: Thanks, James [Archived as /info-mac/gui/dragthing-42-de.hqx; 1975 K] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 From: James Thomson To: Subject: [*] DragThing F-4.2 (French) DragThing F-4.2 is the latest French language version of my dock application DragThing, translated by Philippe Bonnaure. This is a free upgrade for existing registered users of DragThing 4, $10 for registered users of previous versions, and $25 for new users. Competitive upgrades are also available for $19 to users of Aladdin DragStrip 3 and PowerOn ACTION GoMac 2. DragThing is a Carbon application which runs natively on Mac OS X, and on Mac OS 8.6 and 9 with CarbonLib 1.1 or later installed. For more information, check out the official DragThing website at: and Philippe's translation site at: Thanks, James [Archived as /info-mac/gui/dragthing-42-fr.hqx; 2017 K] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 From: James Thomson To: Subject: [*] DragThing J-4.2 (Japanese) DragThing J-4.2 is the latest Japanese language version of my dock application DragThing. This is a free upgrade for existing registered users of DragThing 4, $10 for registered users of previous versions, and $25 for new users. Competitive upgrades are also available for $19 to users of Aladdin DragStrip 3 and PowerOn ACTION GoMac 2. DragThing is a Carbon application which runs natively on Mac OS X, and on Mac OS 8.6 and 9 with CarbonLib 1.1 or later installed. For more information, check out the official DragThing website at: Thanks, James [Archived as /info-mac/gui/dragthing-42-jp.hqx; 1949 K] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 From: James Thomson To: Subject: [*] DragThing T-4.2 (Italian) DragThing T-4.2 is the latest Italian language version of my dock application DragThing, translated by Massimo Rotunno. This is a free upgrade for existing registered users of DragThing 4, $10 for registered users of previous versions, and $25 for new users. Competitive upgrades are also available for $19 to users of Aladdin DragStrip 3 and PowerOn ACTION GoMac 2. DragThing is a Carbon application which runs natively on Mac OS X, and on Mac OS 8.6 and 9 with CarbonLib 1.1 or later installed. For more information, check out the official DragThing website at: and Massimo's translation site at: Thanks, James [Archived as /info-mac/gui/dragthing-42-it.hqx; 2082 K] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 From: TigaByte Software To: Subject: [*] EnglishLeagueManager115 English League Managerv1.15 is a shareware soccer management game. Version 1.15 has many improvements including better player transfers. ELM allows you to manage a team within the English league. The ultimate aim is to win the Premier Championship and both the FA and League Cups within the same season. FEATURES * Manage a team from one of the 4 main English Divisions using over 90 screens. * Play three types of game - Standard, Manager's, and Custom. * Over 4000 players in 124 clubs: - up to 25 players in squad & up to 25 in reserves. * Player roles - goalkeeper, defender, midfielder, forward. * Players have 17 attributes:. * Moving match play allowing substitutes,injuries, corners,free kicks, red cards. * Match animation is 2D but hidden simulation uses 3D space for ball. * The ability to change formation and general tactics during a match. * Training ground for practicing corner and free kick tactics. * Tactical screens for planning defensive and offensive formations. * Player ageing and retirements - skill varies with age. * Financial control of the club including loans, sponsorships and match advertising. * Buy and sell players on the transfer market, and browse any club. * Player contracts and renegotiations. * Ground development for increasing crowd capacity. * On screen help system. * Editor for creating custom scenarios with registered version. REQUIREMENTS * 68030 or later, 68040 recommended, an FPU is NOT required. * 3.7MB free RAM - on older Macs with 8 bit colour. * 5.0MB free RAM - on newer Macs with 16 bit colour. * 640x480 at 256 colour screen * OS7.1 or above - (OSX - I simply don't know) DISTRIBUTION This English League Manager demo may be freely included on CDROMs. CONTACT Malcolm:- mrj.mcquoid@kagi.com http://www.kagi.com/mrj.mcquoid/default.html http://www.tigabyte.freeserve.co.uk/default.html TigaByte Software, 24th October 2001. [Archived as /info-mac/game/english-league-manager-115.hqx; 1240 K] ------------------------------ Date: 29 Oct 2001 From: ChrisLi@Bridge1.com To: Subject: [*] Glypha III 1.1b2J - Japanese Version This is the Japanese version of the public domain Glypha III package. Ported To MacOS X by Mark Pazolli Originally Developed By John Calhoun Japanese Version by Bridge 1 Software In Glypha III, you are placed inside an Egyptian temple with only your lance and winged steed to aid you. Here you will be forced to do battle with Sphinxes in order to gain the honor of a place on the High Scores list. This is the Mac OS X version of the classic arcade style game. [Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/glypha-3-11b2-jp.hqx; 855 K] ------------------------------ Date: 30 Oct 2001 From: Haxial To: Subject: [*] Haxial DiskCatalog 1.000 Haxial DiskCatalog is a utility for cataloging CDs, hard disks, folders, and any other type of disk. It allows you to browse the contents of disks without having to find them and insert them into your computer. More importantly, you can search all of your disks at once (again without having them in the computer), and DiskCatalog will display a list of all the files found, and their location. When you're looking for a file and you don't know where it is, this is much easier than manually searching all your disks. DiskCatalog is designed to be very fast -- search results usually appear instantly. DiskCatalog is available for: MacOS 9 or better (with CarbonLib 1.3.1+). MacOS X (10). Windows 95 or better. The Product Page is here: http://www.haxial.com/products/diskcatalog/ And the company website is: http://www.haxial.com [Archived as /info-mac/disk/haxial-disk-catalog-10.hqx; 324 K] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 From: Goldeva To: Subject: [*] Osaifu weekly1.0 Japanese Osaifu weekly1.0 This is HyperCard stack for daily monay management. You can calculate your purse "in-out" easily and record some notes everyday. Easy operate and simple appearance with useful "Status strings field" are just fit to your old PowerBook 1XX serious 640 X 400 display. Anyway, you can try all the functions, free! System requirement: Macintosh with "Japanese" system and HyperCard 2.2J or later [Archived as /info-mac/app/bus/osaifu-weekly-10.hqx; 24 K] ------------------------------ Date: 28 Oct 2001 From: Jeffry Baker To: Subject: [*] RPN Calculator 1.4.4a 68K RPN Calculator is a mathematically robust RPN implementation for Macintosh in two flavors: PPC and Carbon. No more 68k builds are planned, but V1.44a will remain available for 68k users. Note that 1.44a applies the same fix to 1.44 that 1.46 applied to 1.45, and is therefore recommended for 68k users. V1.46 is essentially a final quality program and is very reliable. Its features include: 100 element stack 8 memories Full support for complex number math Scalable user interface Statistics Systems of equations (up to 5 equations and 5 unknowns) Prime number search Factorization Prime factorization Fraction approximation to decimal expansions Base Conversion Function library (up to 200 user-defined functions) Constants (up to 200 user-defined constants) Simple help system [Archived as /info-mac/sci/calc/rpn-calculator-144a-68k.hqx; 750 K] ------------------------------ Date: 28 Oct 2001 From: Jeffry Baker To: Subject: [*] RPN Calculator 1.4.6 Carbon RPN Calculator is a mathematically robust RPN implementation for Macintosh in two flavors: PPC and Carbon. No more 68k builds are planned, but V1.44a will remain available for 68k users. Note that 1.44a applies the same fix to 1.44 that 1.46 applied to 1.45, and is therefore recommended for 68k users. V1.46 is essentially a final quality program and is very reliable. Its features include: 100 element stack 8 memories Full support for complex number math Scalable user interface Statistics Systems of equations (up to 5 equations and 5 unknowns) Prime number search Factorization Prime factorization Fraction approximation to decimal expansions Base Conversion Function library (up to 200 user-defined functions) Constants (up to 200 user-defined constants) Simple help system [Archived as /info-mac/sci/calc/rpn-calculator-146-cbn.hqx; 1026 K] ------------------------------ Date: 28 Oct 2001 From: Jeffry Baker To: Subject: [*] RPN Calculator 1.4.6 PPC RPN Calculator is a mathematically robust RPN implementation for Macintosh in two flavors: PPC and Carbon. No more 68k builds are planned, but V1.44a will remain available for 68k users. Note that 1.44a applies the same fix to 1.44 that 1.46 applied to 1.45, and is therefore recommended for 68k users. V1.46 is essentially a final quality program and is very reliable. Its features include: 100 element stack 8 memories Full support for complex number math Scalable user interface Statistics Systems of equations (up to 5 equations and 5 unknowns) Prime number search Factorization Prime factorization Fraction approximation to decimal expansions Base Conversion Function library (up to 200 user-defined functions) Constants (up to 200 user-defined constants) Simple help system [Archived as /info-mac/sci/calc/rpn-calculator-146-ppc.hqx; 894 K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:00:00 -0800 From: TidBITS Editors To: digest@info-mac.org, mac-l@sparky.listmoms.net, Subject: [*] TidBITS#603/29-Oct-01 TidBITS#603/29-Oct-01 After days of speculation about Apple's new non-Mac device, the mystery was resolved as the iPod, a beautifully small MP3 audio player that sets a new standard in its field. Jeff Carlson contributes a hands-on review, and looks at the one thing that may prevent the iPod from being the hit it deserves to be. Also in this issue, Dan Kohn looks at why encryption won't protect online revenue streams, and we note the release of Windows XP and IPNetSentry 1.3. Topics: MailBITS/29-Oct-01 iPod Makes Music More Attractive Steal This Essay 2: Why Encryption Doesn't Help [Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-603.etx; 31K] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 From: ChrisLi@Bridge1.com To: Subject: [*] URL Manager Pro 3.0b18J - Japanese Version This is the Japanese version of the URL Manager Pro package. This development version of URL Manager Pro 3.0 runs on Mac OS X and Mac OS 9 and higher with CarbonLib 1.1 or higher. Please check the Web Site regularly for new updates. "In the shareware arena, my pick is URL Manager" - Adam C. Engst "You have got me addicted" - Henry Norr, San Francisco Chronicle "A must have for serious Web users" - Tucows rating: 5 out of 5 "It's a polished, professional-standard application packed with useful features, neat shortcuts and quality design. Brilliant." - MacFormat UK. URL Manager Pro is a repository for your favorite Internet addresses or URLs (Uniform Resource Locators). URL Manager Pro allows you to organize and collect URLs in a hierarchical structure. Organizing bookmarks between and within folders is easy with Drag & Drop. Drag HyperText links from your Web Browser to the URL Manager Pro window to add a URL to the repository. To go to a URL, Drag & Drop a bookmark to the window of a Web Browser or double click. URL Manager Pro adds tight integration with Navigator, Explorer, iCab, Anarchie, Fetch, NetFinder, Claris Emailer, Outlook Express and Eudora. With URL Manager Pro you can add bookmark menus to the menu bar of these applications. Also, URL Manager Pro adds the URL Manager shared icon menu to the menu bar. With this menu you can create bookmarks for Web Pages from --within-- Navigator, Explorer, iCab, Add Notes, Grab All URLs on a Web Page or in an E-Mail message, and explore the Internet with a predefined set of Search Engines. [Archived as /info-mac/comm/inet/web/url-manager-pro-30b18-jp.hqx; 1210 K] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 2001 From: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" To: Subject: [*] VersionLoader 1.0a2 (MacOS X version) * VersionLoader is a Client application for the VersionTracker (http://www.versiontracker.com) database to keep the overview of what is new - comparable to the Apple Software Download Agent. * System requirements: MacOS X 10.1 (requires "curl" shell command) Disclaimer: This release is an experiment (or demo) to show core functionality. This release is Freeware but the right to change this for future releases is reserved. Any and all trademarks mentioned belong to their respective owners. They are used in this document only for reference/descriptive purposes. [Archived as /info-mac/app/version-loader-10a2.hqx; 1740 K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:54:54 -0400 From: John Tierney To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: adapter for small power plug Anyone know of an adapter that would allow you to use an older power adapter with the newer iBooks and TiBooks? I believe the voltages are the same. It is just the size of the plug that has changed. It would be simple to make one if I know where to buy those connectors. Amy help would be appreciated. -- John Tierney jthome@bellatlantic.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:50:06 +0200 From: "E. Blasberg" To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: DVD region fixer Hi All, Anyone know of a way to be able to watch DVDs with the Apple DVD Player without the restrictions of only being able to switch between regions 4 times? I know this kind of thing exists on Windoze (DVD Genie which resets the number). The other option, as I understand it, is to have 2 different programs to play DVDs- one set to one region and the second for the other. If that is a solution, can anyone recommend a good second DVD player other than Apple's? Much TIA, E. Blasberg -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:29:05 -0600 From: "Gib Henry" To: "Info-Mac List" Subject: Extensions Mgr: Error -116 on save Missing Extensions Ever since 9.0, whenever Extensions Manager says there are missing extensions and tries to save a list of them, I get an error -116 (Size Check Failed). The Missing Extensions text file appears, but it is always empty. I upgraded to 9.0.4, 9.1, and now 9.2.1, all with consistent behavior. I've tried deleting Extensions Manager's prefs file with no results. And of course I've run Disk Warrior and Tech Tool Pro from time to time, also without results. Any ideas what's wrong and how I can fix it? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 14:58:06 +1100 From: Glen Hawkins To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Mac avi players Is there a shareware or freeware avi player for the mac? I keep getting friends e-mails with avi attachments and usually I can get sound but no pikkies with QT 5. Any suggestions? Cheers Glen -- Dr Glen Hawkins Sydney, Australia glenhawk@ozemail.com.au Ph: +61407700701 Fax: +61407701717 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:03:49 -0500 From: Bill Hubschmitt To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Old Afga Slidewriter I mispoke in the last issue, What I have is Afga Slidewriter with "conductor software" I believe it is the same as POM. I used to run an old Afga Slidewriter off an old mac until the Harddisk crashed for good. I went to the original disks and manual, but the the disks were toasted by placing them on a speaker in storage. I tried fixing the disks but no avail and even tried canopener to see if I could recognize files, but the disks are all just garbage. I have been able to replace the application, but I still need the system files, specifically the film LUT tables and any other files that would be in the system file. Afga is of no help, since they no longer support film recorders, and the place they refer me to wants big bucks for a postscript rip. I dont need to image postscript files, just plain bitmap Picts. Can anyone out there help me and my art students? I can prove I have the original disks, so there is no copyright issue being violated, Afga has just washed their hands of the whole business. Thanks Bill Hubschmitt Art Dept Eastern Illinois Univ. cfweh@eiu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 21:06:53 -0400 From: John McGibney To: InfoMac posting Subject: pc card problem I have a PB 1400 that recently developed a problem. It refuses to link to any other computers or the router on my Ethernet network. I bought a new PCMCIA ethernet card (Asante10mb card) and that doesn't work either. The original card was a Dayna Communicard plus. The computer recognizes the card when its software is loaded, the link light lights, and the data light flashes, but no other computers show up nor can the PowerBook be seen by any other computer. The PowerBook has system 8.6, and 32 megs of ram, the other computers have sys 8.6, 9.04 and 9.2. Any clues or suggestions? I've tried the usual fixes, clean install, Norton disk utilities, techtool pro, disk first aid, etc. all show no problem. I tried the cards in another 1400, also no good. TIA John _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 20:44:42 +0000 From: me@none.co.uk.invalid (Lobo) To: comp-sys-mac-digest@moderators.isc.org Subject: software for USB pci card? In article <9r7tfp$4ng$1@traf.lcs.mit.edu>, moderator@info-mac.org (The Info-Mac Moderators) wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:55:48 +0100 > From: Ezra Nathan > To: Info-Mac digest > Subject: software for USB pci card? > > I have bought a Belkin 2 port USB pci card for a 333Mhz G3 desktop in order > to have a laserwriter with a USB connection work off of it. The G3 is > running OS 8.5. Do I need to install any software to make the card work? Has > anyone any experience with doing something like what I am about to do and > care to give any advice. > > Thanks, > > Ezra Yes, you require the USB driver. There is a difference for pre 8.6 and OS 8.6Have a look at... http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/USB_Updates/ Lobo. This email IS valid... plalp2000@yahoo.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 23:29:48 +0300 From: "chamberlain@royal.net" To: Subject: Software Update Crashes I'm using a PowerPC 9600/MacOS 9.1 and and a G4 Cube/MacOS 9.2. Every time I use Software Update on both these computers, the first file is downloaded then installed and then the Software Update hangs/crashes the computer which has to be hard-reset. Does this even with clean System installs. Can anyone explain what the problem is? -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************